Pawar decrees the tour will go on
The latest Bollyline news: BCCI big kahuna Pawar has declared the Indian tour of Australia will continue regardless of the result of the Harbhajan Singh suspension. Great news that the high quality cricket between these two teams will continue. And a fine gesture from Pawar - conducting an appeal with the threat of a boycott dependent on a result is not a good way to go about things. Another interesting tidbit from the article:
The Age has reported that both teams submitted a list of racially offensive words prior to the series and "bastard" did not rate a mention. The list was intended to inform ground managers what terms should be prohibited in crowds. However, the paper said that "monkey" was on the list.Considering Harbhajan was already warned in India about calling Symonds a monkey, the issue at hand is not whether the term is meant as racist but if he actually said it or not. Of course if it does emerge that Harbhajan used a similar sounding Punjabi term, well, Symonds is going to look like a bit of a goose.
And on the refreshing topic of actual cricket, Virender Sehwag scored a 73-ball hundred in the tour game in Canberra. Meanwhile, Yuvraj Singh notched totals of 2 and 3. I don't fancy his chances of playing in Perth. Would love to see Sehwag open the innings though.
| Posted by JC on Sat 12 Jan |  34 comments |
Hopefully Sehwag can handle the bounce at Perth, but his powerful uninhibited cuts should hold him good.
I'm a big fan of Dinesh Karthik, but I don't think he can find a place despite his good innings today (97 of about 152 balls with 13+ 4's, I hope my memory is good!)
The only spot in doubt is Dhoni, but you cant drop the vice-captain, can you?
Re the tour going on, I feel pathetic that we should even discuss such a thing. Personally I feel there's a bit of sour grapes among the Indians, and despite their obvious bad luck in Sydney, the fact that they're 2-0 down and likely to lose the series has played a part in their ridiculous protests and blackmails.
I had a lot of sympathy for our team and our captain especially, after they lost, but I've lost most of it now following their unsporting behaviour off the field.
Posted by Ajesh Nag on 2008-01-12 15:54:51
I'm a big fan of Dinesh Karthik, but I don't think he can find a place despite his good innings today (97 of about 152 balls with 13+ 4's, I hope my memory is good!)
The only spot in doubt is Dhoni, but you cant drop the vice-captain, can you?
Re the tour going on, I feel pathetic that we should even discuss such a thing. Personally I feel there's a bit of sour grapes among the Indians, and despite their obvious bad luck in Sydney, the fact that they're 2-0 down and likely to lose the series has played a part in their ridiculous protests and blackmails.
I had a lot of sympathy for our team and our captain especially, after they lost, but I've lost most of it now following their unsporting behaviour off the field.
Posted by Ajesh Nag on 2008-01-12 15:54:51
Great decision on Pawar's behalf - I'd always hoped it would be the case, but decisions like these involving boards/executives with a lot of money at stake always take time. That's also after cooling down periods/cultutal, language & time differences etc. are taken into account so not suprised it took a while.
I seriously don't think all the details of everything will be made known until after the series but I believe everybody who jumped on bandwagons all too quicly may have egg on their faces.
Will be good to get Sehwag get a knock & how the Indians handle Tait on the Perth pitch - apparently back to it's pacey/bouncy best.
Posted by Mike Hunt on 2008-01-12 17:34:23
I seriously don't think all the details of everything will be made known until after the series but I believe everybody who jumped on bandwagons all too quicly may have egg on their faces.
Will be good to get Sehwag get a knock & how the Indians handle Tait on the Perth pitch - apparently back to it's pacey/bouncy best.
Posted by Mike Hunt on 2008-01-12 17:34:23
I think it will be good. Atleast it will be fighting best. Few things:
1. This match and tour will be forgotten by the time the one-day series start. If Bhajji doesnt perform, BCCI will save the trouble for ICC. I bet both teams will drop this issue silently by the time india is out of australia.
2. I watched the ACT-XI game, impressed by the new kids bowling. Nice temperament and fighting spirit. Let the days of talent be gone, and let there be the days of hard-work and winning attitudes.
3. I personally didnt find the indian-players unsporting (other than Bhajji, as much as the Aussie players other than Symo,Hogg). THe indian-mob is a different story. It just was a bad match, but then again its easy to sit in the cozy confines and talk about sporting behaviour.
4. Lets hope Sehwag clicks.. I am waiting for the one day series and 20/20.. ohh its going to be fun.
Posted by Moe'sTavern on 2008-01-12 17:59:04
1. This match and tour will be forgotten by the time the one-day series start. If Bhajji doesnt perform, BCCI will save the trouble for ICC. I bet both teams will drop this issue silently by the time india is out of australia.
2. I watched the ACT-XI game, impressed by the new kids bowling. Nice temperament and fighting spirit. Let the days of talent be gone, and let there be the days of hard-work and winning attitudes.
3. I personally didnt find the indian-players unsporting (other than Bhajji, as much as the Aussie players other than Symo,Hogg). THe indian-mob is a different story. It just was a bad match, but then again its easy to sit in the cozy confines and talk about sporting behaviour.
4. Lets hope Sehwag clicks.. I am waiting for the one day series and 20/20.. ohh its going to be fun.
Posted by Moe'sTavern on 2008-01-12 17:59:04
Everyone understand that India was cheated in the Sydney game with atrocious umpiring decisions, way beyond the normal.
Why are not the Indians talking about appealing to the ICC to change the match result to a draw?
Posted by Ravi on 2008-01-12 19:41:53
Why are not the Indians talking about appealing to the ICC to change the match result to a draw?
Posted by Ravi on 2008-01-12 19:41:53
I shouldn't laugh, but I did.
Posted by Hanuman on 2008-01-12 20:21:01
Posted by Hanuman on 2008-01-12 20:21:01
Ravi: Honestly, who cares once the game is completed.
I think part of the game is to think, oh jeez, thank the rain god for that, or oh man that match was fixed, or oh that was pathetic umpiring. But once the game is done and completed, in my opinion lets move on. Well ofcourse you can bicker about the previous game until the next one start. But that's about how long I care.
Writing to ICC to get the match to be called a drawn.. that is way beyond me.. yaawwnnn.
BTW - on a different topic: Harsha Bhogle is really the worst broadcaster ever. I just heard him for the first time on the ACT match broadcast. How does he survive??
Posted by Moes Tavern on 2008-01-12 20:29:42
I think part of the game is to think, oh jeez, thank the rain god for that, or oh man that match was fixed, or oh that was pathetic umpiring. But once the game is done and completed, in my opinion lets move on. Well ofcourse you can bicker about the previous game until the next one start. But that's about how long I care.
Writing to ICC to get the match to be called a drawn.. that is way beyond me.. yaawwnnn.
BTW - on a different topic: Harsha Bhogle is really the worst broadcaster ever. I just heard him for the first time on the ACT match broadcast. How does he survive??
Posted by Moes Tavern on 2008-01-12 20:29:42
Here Here..Waiting for Perth. For the sake of an excellent show, hope it gets to the wire just like Sydney... and India wins...
Is it too much to ask :-)
Well apart from all the Indians jumping that it should have been 1-2, and Aussies with thier humility congratulating India on a fine display. India would be pumped for Adelaide.
Ah! and the "Record setting 17th consecutive win" will be thwarted - Sweet (there I said it ;-))
Posted by Moes Tavern on 2008-01-12 20:45:45
Is it too much to ask :-)
Well apart from all the Indians jumping that it should have been 1-2, and Aussies with thier humility congratulating India on a fine display. India would be pumped for Adelaide.
Ah! and the "Record setting 17th consecutive win" will be thwarted - Sweet (there I said it ;-))
Posted by Moes Tavern on 2008-01-12 20:45:45
Viru will be a very good choice for this test.though it might seem a bit too late pick him,i feel india could recuperate from there previous two loses.
Sehwag though a flashy and confidant player out side his off stump,is the kind of player who uses the depth of his crease to very good advantage.He might me able to smuggle a few milli-seconds and play the ball neatly in the middle of the bat.Even if he attempts to play on the rise his initial movement is moving his right foot back and then rocking forward to meet the ball.
According to me its the opening pair thats got to be sorted out.harsha Boghle was thinking right when he said "when your opening partnership fires your middle order becomes twice as good".
Posted by vishnu on 2008-01-13 00:43:14
Sehwag though a flashy and confidant player out side his off stump,is the kind of player who uses the depth of his crease to very good advantage.He might me able to smuggle a few milli-seconds and play the ball neatly in the middle of the bat.Even if he attempts to play on the rise his initial movement is moving his right foot back and then rocking forward to meet the ball.
According to me its the opening pair thats got to be sorted out.harsha Boghle was thinking right when he said "when your opening partnership fires your middle order becomes twice as good".
Posted by vishnu on 2008-01-13 00:43:14
Moes Tavern - You said "Harsha Bhogle is really the worst broadcaster ever. I just heard him for the first time on the ACT match broadcast. How does he survive??
Wanna know the answer? Simple. He knows more about cricket than even many ex-cricketers. I would rate Bhogle higher than many cricketer-turned-commentators, including, Sunny Gavaskar, Michale Slater, Ian Healy etc.
Moes- Do you have a specific incident where you think he bungled for you to term him 'worst broadcaster'???
Gavaskar's technical commentary may be good, but he is boring. Shastri is ok, but Bhogle is an encyclopaedia. Never ever wrong. You need such guys.....
Cheers
Mahesh
Posted by Mahesh-in response on 2008-01-13 05:05:32
Wanna know the answer? Simple. He knows more about cricket than even many ex-cricketers. I would rate Bhogle higher than many cricketer-turned-commentators, including, Sunny Gavaskar, Michale Slater, Ian Healy etc.
Moes- Do you have a specific incident where you think he bungled for you to term him 'worst broadcaster'???
Gavaskar's technical commentary may be good, but he is boring. Shastri is ok, but Bhogle is an encyclopaedia. Never ever wrong. You need such guys.....
Cheers
Mahesh
Posted by Mahesh-in response on 2008-01-13 05:05:32
Bhogle is gross, he talks like a 9 year old and smiles in an odd manner; lips moving eyes twitching and blushing when he utters the word "Hunk" at the end of the days play for the best batsman. That said compared to the rest of the Indian commentators he doesnt do any worse. I personally enjoy Gavaskar when hes not deifying Sachin or slagging the aussies. Nothing wrong in that though if you asked me.
In the Paki Series, I thought Arun Lal had done quite nicely and had a relaxed air about it all. Need more people who are can look at things objectively and shelve nationalism.
Posted by Indian on 2008-01-13 05:38:47
In the Paki Series, I thought Arun Lal had done quite nicely and had a relaxed air about it all. Need more people who are can look at things objectively and shelve nationalism.
Posted by Indian on 2008-01-13 05:38:47
After all that India have copped they have decided to take it on the chin and move on. The decision by Pawar shows statesmanship which is markedly absent from the Aussie establishment or that roving ambassador for Aussie cricket - Malcolm Speed.
Indians and players from subcontinent have had to deal with double standards whenever they step onto a cricket field. Some of the instances are as follows:
1. Scene - 1 : Yuvraj Singh lingered for a second at the crease after being given wrongly out at Melbourne. The chief patron of Cricket Australia sorry ICC is outraged and has a dig at Procter for being soft on such players.
Scene - 2 : Ponting throws tantrums after being dismissed. Clarke stands his ground after edging to slip. Malcolm Speed maintains a dignified silence.
2. Six Indian players docked for excessive appealing in South Africa. Sehwag states that his indiscretion was to look skywards after being denied a legitimate shout. No Aussie players have been booked for excessive appealing when that is what they do to pressurize umpires. Had it been an Indian in place of Ponting who appealed for a bump catch I can bet my bottom dollar that he would have been banned.
3. Sledging was perfectly normal when Aussies could give it. When it is there turn to take it they have to complain to the referee or to Mommy. It has become a serious issue for Malcolm Speed and company because others are giving it back to his team.
If such double standards continue it is a question of when and not will ICC break up.
Posted by Varghese on 2008-01-13 06:34:58
Indians and players from subcontinent have had to deal with double standards whenever they step onto a cricket field. Some of the instances are as follows:
1. Scene - 1 : Yuvraj Singh lingered for a second at the crease after being given wrongly out at Melbourne. The chief patron of Cricket Australia sorry ICC is outraged and has a dig at Procter for being soft on such players.
Scene - 2 : Ponting throws tantrums after being dismissed. Clarke stands his ground after edging to slip. Malcolm Speed maintains a dignified silence.
2. Six Indian players docked for excessive appealing in South Africa. Sehwag states that his indiscretion was to look skywards after being denied a legitimate shout. No Aussie players have been booked for excessive appealing when that is what they do to pressurize umpires. Had it been an Indian in place of Ponting who appealed for a bump catch I can bet my bottom dollar that he would have been banned.
3. Sledging was perfectly normal when Aussies could give it. When it is there turn to take it they have to complain to the referee or to Mommy. It has become a serious issue for Malcolm Speed and company because others are giving it back to his team.
If such double standards continue it is a question of when and not will ICC break up.
Posted by Varghese on 2008-01-13 06:34:58
Moes Tavern: I do not agree it is that simple. Surely Ricky Ponting keeps track of a match result long after it is over for he is so thrilled about his 16 win record.
What sucks is an unfair match result will be written into a game statistics & history as a win for Australia.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-01-13 06:58:29
What sucks is an unfair match result will be written into a game statistics & history as a win for Australia.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-01-13 06:58:29
Its a universal truth that all human beings have lineage to the Monkey in the animal kingdom. So why should a human being be offended (IN A RACIAL WAY)?
Nothing said has been specific to his nationality, country of origin, race/religion or caste/creed?
A Symonds is same as a Kumble, same as a Harbhajan who all can be shown their lineage to Monkey.?
Posted by svr_76 on 2008-01-13 09:37:37
Nothing said has been specific to his nationality, country of origin, race/religion or caste/creed?
A Symonds is same as a Kumble, same as a Harbhajan who all can be shown their lineage to Monkey.?
Posted by svr_76 on 2008-01-13 09:37:37
Sri Lanka’s World Cup winning skipper and present chief of Sri Lanka Cricket Arjuna Ranatunga feels that cricket-playing nations should employ more local umpires to stand at International matches.
Expressing his own sentiments the newly-appointed cricket chief said, “Taking the present status quo into consideration even the ICC elite umpires who are neutral seem to be making mistakes. In my personal view, I think they should employ two local umpires to stand at the matches while an elite umpire assisted by the match referee would guide the two umpires with dicey decisions that they are uncertain of.
“In this manner I feel that the local umpiring standards will also improve in the respective countries. Now see Sri Lanka and India despite playing in the highest division do not have an umpire in the elite panel. This means that there is stagnation among the local rankers.”
Ranatunga then expanded on his view. He said “The elite umpire is appointed by the ICC. Then the Match referee is a person who has played the game at the highest level and earned a certain amount of respect on his self as a player. They are the ones who will be assisting and guiding the local umpires through the game and assisting them in all decisions if ever asked for. At the same time the two ICC representatives will also scrutinize the performance of two local umpires. If the ICC representatives feel that there is an element of bias in any of the local umpires they will have the liberty to report them to the ICC and the ICC in turn will impose a ban on the local umpires (for one or two years) depending on the gravity of the mistakes. What I mean is that in an era where the players are banned for various matters why not umpires who have the advantage of making use of the modern technology and who play an equal responsibility in the final outcome of the game should not be penalised. The game may get a bit slower, but the whole act will get cleaner and the matches will have a better result”.
The mistakes made by the members of the ICC elite panel have been in focus in the recent past,. This includes the misinterpretation of the rules by umpires during the World Cup final between Sri Lanka and Australia and the last Test match played between India and Australia.
Posted by KK on 2008-01-13 10:19:43
Expressing his own sentiments the newly-appointed cricket chief said, “Taking the present status quo into consideration even the ICC elite umpires who are neutral seem to be making mistakes. In my personal view, I think they should employ two local umpires to stand at the matches while an elite umpire assisted by the match referee would guide the two umpires with dicey decisions that they are uncertain of.
“In this manner I feel that the local umpiring standards will also improve in the respective countries. Now see Sri Lanka and India despite playing in the highest division do not have an umpire in the elite panel. This means that there is stagnation among the local rankers.”
Ranatunga then expanded on his view. He said “The elite umpire is appointed by the ICC. Then the Match referee is a person who has played the game at the highest level and earned a certain amount of respect on his self as a player. They are the ones who will be assisting and guiding the local umpires through the game and assisting them in all decisions if ever asked for. At the same time the two ICC representatives will also scrutinize the performance of two local umpires. If the ICC representatives feel that there is an element of bias in any of the local umpires they will have the liberty to report them to the ICC and the ICC in turn will impose a ban on the local umpires (for one or two years) depending on the gravity of the mistakes. What I mean is that in an era where the players are banned for various matters why not umpires who have the advantage of making use of the modern technology and who play an equal responsibility in the final outcome of the game should not be penalised. The game may get a bit slower, but the whole act will get cleaner and the matches will have a better result”.
The mistakes made by the members of the ICC elite panel have been in focus in the recent past,. This includes the misinterpretation of the rules by umpires during the World Cup final between Sri Lanka and Australia and the last Test match played between India and Australia.
Posted by KK on 2008-01-13 10:19:43
Varghese, I love your posts, you make me happy. I wish I could bottle you up and pull the cork every time I'm feeling a little glumb, thank you. It has caused a few problems at home though~ wife's out buying incontinence nappies for me as we speak. keep it up.
svr_76, It is a universal truth that all human beings came out of our mums C*** so by your reasoning we should all be allowed to go around calling each other that right?
KK, Although I agree in theory with some of what you and Arjuna Ranatunga have said on home country umpires could you image what would happen had the 2 umpires in the Sydney test been locals and still made the same mistakes? It would have been WW3 mate. It was flawed in the past so can't see what's changed now. Remember Gavaskar was basically never given out @ home and that is a big reason why we moved to have neutral umpires. I know it's not perfect but believe me it's much better than the past.
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-01-13 11:23:24
svr_76, It is a universal truth that all human beings came out of our mums C*** so by your reasoning we should all be allowed to go around calling each other that right?
KK, Although I agree in theory with some of what you and Arjuna Ranatunga have said on home country umpires could you image what would happen had the 2 umpires in the Sydney test been locals and still made the same mistakes? It would have been WW3 mate. It was flawed in the past so can't see what's changed now. Remember Gavaskar was basically never given out @ home and that is a big reason why we moved to have neutral umpires. I know it's not perfect but believe me it's much better than the past.
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-01-13 11:23:24
Varghese, I just looked in Wikipedia for double standards and it had had your name.
It said: "the true definition of double standards is Varghese complaining about lingering at the crease after seeing Bhajji bowled by K Pietersen."
Posted by MattyB on 2008-01-13 19:55:15
It said: "the true definition of double standards is Varghese complaining about lingering at the crease after seeing Bhajji bowled by K Pietersen."
Posted by MattyB on 2008-01-13 19:55:15
almost MattB, the exact quote from wikipedia is "the true definition of double standards is Varghese complaining about lingering at the crease after seeing Bastajji bowled by K Pietersen."
Posted by Moses on 2008-01-13 20:47:05
Posted by Moses on 2008-01-13 20:47:05
I have been watching and reading blogs so long without participating in it.... I was little scared to express my opinion as it's so different than cricket frenzy aussie fan... I seriously believe injustice has been meted out to indian team due to aweful umpiring and our team's extremely shameful rude behaviour... India would definitely have won this match hands down had the umpires not been biased towards our team... on top of that, I don't belive symo's word about racism... i think he is just playing naughty... the least we can do to contain damage is to annul sydney test... I call upon all right minded aussie fans to raise their voices along with me to insist ICC to cancel sydney test...
Posted by An avid Australian Cricket fan on 2008-01-14 02:23:28
Posted by An avid Australian Cricket fan on 2008-01-14 02:23:28
guys, you didnt get it. The exact meaning of double standards is ponting and co and their rabid fans being men while sledging, but running to momma when sledged.
Posted by australia_sucks on 2008-01-14 03:25:23
Posted by australia_sucks on 2008-01-14 03:25:23
i find the same ponting and co and fans when i search for hypocrites as well. Whoaaaa
Posted by australia_sucks on 2008-01-14 04:29:14
Posted by australia_sucks on 2008-01-14 04:29:14
The double standards that exist in cricket is a fact and the traditional establishment have always taken a blinkered pro-Anglo Australian view which has favoured players from these countries. The subcontinent players and officials were taken for granted and treated like lesser mortals. But only a Rip Van Winkle will fail to grasp the tectonic changes that have occurred over the past decade. Balance of power is slowly shifting to Asia in all walks of life and the "lesser mortals" are slowly exerting their rights. Therein lies the faultline for this conflict. The old order does not want to give in their powers without a fight and the new order is impatient.
I am not saying that India is perfect either. The crowd behaviour that was witnessed in Bombay recently was atrocious. I was ashamed at the way they treated Symonds during that one dayer. If crowds do not behave then the location should not be allowed to host any future matches. There needs to be a new enforceable code of conduct for crowd behaviour, umpiring, player conduct. Once the rules are in place they should be enforced without fear or favour, irrespective of colour or creed.
Posted by Varghese on 2008-01-14 05:34:59
I am not saying that India is perfect either. The crowd behaviour that was witnessed in Bombay recently was atrocious. I was ashamed at the way they treated Symonds during that one dayer. If crowds do not behave then the location should not be allowed to host any future matches. There needs to be a new enforceable code of conduct for crowd behaviour, umpiring, player conduct. Once the rules are in place they should be enforced without fear or favour, irrespective of colour or creed.
Posted by Varghese on 2008-01-14 05:34:59
aus is the only country in the world to have spirit of cricket document which asks them to respect the opponents and ironically they're the ones who breach it. another example of double standards.
Posted by australia_sucks on 2008-01-14 07:58:27
Posted by australia_sucks on 2008-01-14 07:58:27
I find it hard to believe you actually understand what a double standard is when you don't understand the difference between sledging and racism.
And apparently its OK for the spirit of cricket to sledge but not Aussies?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnLv4u3yUIU
Posted by Hanuman on 2008-01-14 09:19:28
And apparently its OK for the spirit of cricket to sledge but not Aussies?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnLv4u3yUIU
Posted by Hanuman on 2008-01-14 09:19:28
"An avid Australian Cricket fan", welcome aboard. If you've got genuine opinions then by all means share them of here, though by your spelling, grammar and opinion I'm tipping you are in fact an Indian in sheeps clothing.
I haven't heard a single rational reason to cancel a test match, and definately not due to poor umpiring. If this was your true feelings then surely by the same token you'd want Edgbaston test reversed as well...
Posted by Moses on 2008-01-14 09:46:32
I haven't heard a single rational reason to cancel a test match, and definately not due to poor umpiring. If this was your true feelings then surely by the same token you'd want Edgbaston test reversed as well...
Posted by Moses on 2008-01-14 09:46:32
MOSES
"An avid Australian Cricket fan", welcome aboard. If you've got genuine opinions then by all means share them of here, though by your spelling, grammar and opinion I'm tipping you are in fact an Indian in sheeps clothing.
I haven't heard a single rational reason to cancel a test match, and definately not due to poor umpiring. If this was your true feelings then surely by the same token you'd want Edgbaston test reversed as well...
YOU ARE NOT AUSTRALIAN
Share them here (no need for of)
Full stop after here.
Comma after though
If these were your true feelings ( OR If this was your true feeling )
OR MAYBE NO RACE OR PEOPLE OWN A LANGUAGE
Posted by Tail Spin on 2008-01-14 10:07:36
"An avid Australian Cricket fan", welcome aboard. If you've got genuine opinions then by all means share them of here, though by your spelling, grammar and opinion I'm tipping you are in fact an Indian in sheeps clothing.
I haven't heard a single rational reason to cancel a test match, and definately not due to poor umpiring. If this was your true feelings then surely by the same token you'd want Edgbaston test reversed as well...
YOU ARE NOT AUSTRALIAN
Share them here (no need for of)
Full stop after here.
Comma after though
If these were your true feelings ( OR If this was your true feeling )
OR MAYBE NO RACE OR PEOPLE OWN A LANGUAGE
Posted by Tail Spin on 2008-01-14 10:07:36
Australia_Sucks wrote: "aus is the only country in the world to have spirit of cricket document which asks them to respect the opponents and ironically they're the ones who breach it. another example of double standards."
Waaaaaaa, waaaaaaa, waaaaaaa. Australia_Sucks, I don't think you appreciate the irony in your comments about breaking contracts and agreements.
Bhajji and Symonds had an agreement not to use racist words, but one of those people broke that agreement. Also, Ponting and Kumble had an agreement to accept the fielders word on close catches. Hmmm? And then there was an agreement with the ICC to report racist comments. Kumble freely admits he asked Ponting not to honour that agreement.
Oh and then there's the contract the BCCI, ICC and CA signed regarding playing 2 more tests and 10 ODI's. Well, BCCI have changed their mind ... now.
Apparently contracts aren't very binding in India?
Posted by MattyB on 2008-01-14 10:20:00
Waaaaaaa, waaaaaaa, waaaaaaa. Australia_Sucks, I don't think you appreciate the irony in your comments about breaking contracts and agreements.
Bhajji and Symonds had an agreement not to use racist words, but one of those people broke that agreement. Also, Ponting and Kumble had an agreement to accept the fielders word on close catches. Hmmm? And then there was an agreement with the ICC to report racist comments. Kumble freely admits he asked Ponting not to honour that agreement.
Oh and then there's the contract the BCCI, ICC and CA signed regarding playing 2 more tests and 10 ODI's. Well, BCCI have changed their mind ... now.
Apparently contracts aren't very binding in India?
Posted by MattyB on 2008-01-14 10:20:00
The double standards that exist in cricket is a fact and the traditional establishment have always taken a blinkered pro-Anglo Australian view which has favoured players from these countries. The subcontinent players and officials were taken for granted and treated like lesser mortals. But only a Rip Van Winkle will fail to grasp the tectonic changes that have occurred over the past decade. Balance of power is slowly shifting to Asia in all walks of life and the "lesser mortals" are slowly exerting their rights. Therein lies the faultline for this conflict. The old order does not want to give in their powers without a fight and the new order is impatient.
Dude if the *establishment* had *always* favoured *anglo-Australians* then how could the Windies have mopped the floor with us in the 70's/80's & why is Murali/chucker still playing & allowed to take Warnie's mantle? The '05 Ashes loss must have presented a conundrum to the 'establishment' then - they're favourite sons (us) about to go down to more anglo-white boys. You'd think by your claim that having Monty Panesar in the English side would've been enough to fabricate a result where the golden-haired Aussies were handed the Ashes.. but in the end it was all to no avail.
Think about some of your comments & how utterly ridiculous they are before you make them....
Posted by MikeHunt on 2008-01-14 12:11:58
Dude if the *establishment* had *always* favoured *anglo-Australians* then how could the Windies have mopped the floor with us in the 70's/80's & why is Murali/chucker still playing & allowed to take Warnie's mantle? The '05 Ashes loss must have presented a conundrum to the 'establishment' then - they're favourite sons (us) about to go down to more anglo-white boys. You'd think by your claim that having Monty Panesar in the English side would've been enough to fabricate a result where the golden-haired Aussies were handed the Ashes.. but in the end it was all to no avail.
Think about some of your comments & how utterly ridiculous they are before you make them....
Posted by MikeHunt on 2008-01-14 12:11:58
if murali is a chucker, how about shame "steroid/dope/drugs" warne?
West indies of 70s-80s were too good players who could overcome all umpiring blunders and still win. None of the other teams in the world have reached anywhere close to them.
Bhajji is no saint. So are Ponting and "rearguard" Symo. If Symo cant take abuse from rival team, does he expect them to keep quiet while he abuses them
Posted by australia_sucks on 2008-01-14 13:13:50
West indies of 70s-80s were too good players who could overcome all umpiring blunders and still win. None of the other teams in the world have reached anywhere close to them.
Bhajji is no saint. So are Ponting and "rearguard" Symo. If Symo cant take abuse from rival team, does he expect them to keep quiet while he abuses them
Posted by australia_sucks on 2008-01-14 13:13:50
australia_sucks, you still fail to see the distinction between sledging and racial vilification.
Perhaps you should look it up then come back informed.
Posted by Moses on 2008-01-14 13:22:54
Perhaps you should look it up then come back informed.
Posted by Moses on 2008-01-14 13:22:54
3:10 TO YUMA Russell Crowe is awesome.
YO MA funny slights focussing on MA's on MTV
MA KI or TERI MA KI ... NTBCW TERIYAKI
funny Punjabi slights
MONK... innocuous weopon with devastating effect
like the hand held fan used to kill people in
the movies like "Snake in a monkey's shadow "
Posted by Tail Spin on 2008-01-14 13:33:50
YO MA funny slights focussing on MA's on MTV
MA KI or TERI MA KI ... NTBCW TERIYAKI
funny Punjabi slights
MONK... innocuous weopon with devastating effect
like the hand held fan used to kill people in
the movies like "Snake in a monkey's shadow "
Posted by Tail Spin on 2008-01-14 13:33:50
YUMA
YO MAMA
MA KI
MONKEY
KI FARAK PAINDA E
Posted by Tail Spin on 2008-01-14 14:05:35
YO MAMA
MA KI
MONKEY
KI FARAK PAINDA E
Posted by Tail Spin on 2008-01-14 14:05:35
I've given up on this test series. I wish the Indian players, who have behaved like spoilt princesses, would take their bat and go home. The Australians were not gracious winners, but I have never seen such bad losers as the Indians. Their batsmen folded miserably in the second test, but they refused to accept resonsibility for their meek batting, instead blaming the umpires, and the Australians. It's the same deal with Harbhajan's appalling actions. Instead of taking responsibility and apologising, they deny it and blame the Australians! Go home India.
Posted by Go home India on 2008-01-14 14:40:47
Posted by Go home India on 2008-01-14 14:40:47
Australia_sucks, would you please send me the so-called "spirit of cricket" document drafted by CA? I am extremely curious to find out the "true" meaning of "spirit". I would definitely burn midnight candle to imbibe the "spirit" in letter and spirit....
Posted by No Argument on 2008-01-14 15:48:06
Posted by No Argument on 2008-01-14 15:48:06
"I wish the Indian players, who have behaved like spoilt princesses, would take their bat and go home." - posted by Go Home India
By the same token, Ricky Ponting has behaved like a teenage prince who is learning sword fight with the general's son.... whenever he wins the "sledge game", he thinks he is the toughest guy around and when he loses, he runs to the teacher for shelter.
Posted by No Argument on 2008-01-14 23:56:46
By the same token, Ricky Ponting has behaved like a teenage prince who is learning sword fight with the general's son.... whenever he wins the "sledge game", he thinks he is the toughest guy around and when he loses, he runs to the teacher for shelter.
Posted by No Argument on 2008-01-14 23:56:46
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