Matt Hayden's weed spray
Matt Hayden is a goose. Calling Harhajan Singh an obnoxious weed is bad enough. Australian cricketers are more than just sportsman - somehow they still haven't tweaked that they also represent their country. They're ambassadors to other cricketing nations so as an Australian, it annoys me when our cricketers carry on like this. Sure, Harbhajan is an obnoxious weed but that doesn't excuse Hayden's shameful lack of sportsmanship.
But what really gets me is Hayden's response after being given a reprimand. Here are his words to the media:
"I maintain my innocence, my intentions were never to denigrate cricket or anyone."Can someone explain this to me? Maintain his innocence?! It's not like he was muttering on a noisy MCG well away from the stump mike. He said it in a radio interview! How can calling someone an obnoxious weed be anything but denigrating him? But then, when you process anything through Matt Hayden's psychobabble filter, it could mean anything.
| Posted by JC on Thu 28 Feb |  119 comments |
JC You have got to get a life, there is nothing wrong in sledging the Indians, they are born whingers, so what if Harby is an obnoxious weed, who really cares, for gods sake they are only second rate cricketers, and they give just as much as anyone else thats if you can understand them between there crying.
Good on ya Haydo give it them good, there should be more of it
Posted by KB on 2008-02-28 19:05:00
Good on ya Haydo give it them good, there should be more of it
Posted by KB on 2008-02-28 19:05:00
KB,
nothing wrong with sledging. I am just aghast at the outpouring of emotion against Indians without a tiny bit of introspection. It's very clear that Aussies have been poor hosts, just as the Indians have been. Look at the stuff written in the media about Indian team.
Any anyone who plays a bit of club cricket in Australia and is black is constantly sledged as a "bl**ck c**t" and other racial expletives. You know that is true. So to claim Symonds was 'hurt' is a bit rich.
Yeah Indians don't play the game with the same vigour as Australians do sometimes. Doesn't make them second rate cricketers. They are still a talented bunch. Say that to your listless U19 team that didn't know how to put bat on ball against pakistan. At that age, Indian boys are champs in cricket and then they go through a superb education process in first class cricket that spoils their love for the game. Doesn't mean they are second rate cricketers. It only means that in India sports are not as important as in Australia.
If Hayden thought Harby was obnoxious weed, I am sure plenty of cricketers around the world will testify for worser adjectives to describe Hayden.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-28 19:29:26
nothing wrong with sledging. I am just aghast at the outpouring of emotion against Indians without a tiny bit of introspection. It's very clear that Aussies have been poor hosts, just as the Indians have been. Look at the stuff written in the media about Indian team.
Any anyone who plays a bit of club cricket in Australia and is black is constantly sledged as a "bl**ck c**t" and other racial expletives. You know that is true. So to claim Symonds was 'hurt' is a bit rich.
Yeah Indians don't play the game with the same vigour as Australians do sometimes. Doesn't make them second rate cricketers. They are still a talented bunch. Say that to your listless U19 team that didn't know how to put bat on ball against pakistan. At that age, Indian boys are champs in cricket and then they go through a superb education process in first class cricket that spoils their love for the game. Doesn't mean they are second rate cricketers. It only means that in India sports are not as important as in Australia.
If Hayden thought Harby was obnoxious weed, I am sure plenty of cricketers around the world will testify for worser adjectives to describe Hayden.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-28 19:29:26
Haydos!
(I just read that earlier article)
That was hilarious! A psychologist as a future career? Maybe a spiritual guru!
"Information gathered in hindsight" - I hope all the widespread criticism has helped him get the good information he needed..
"Tweak my thinking a bit" - Yup, maybe next time keep your mouth in check during an interview!
But to be fair to Haydos, the interviewers were dangling the carrot with their questions, and Haydos who even eats the spectators' chips at times, just couldn't resist!
Posted by Ajesh Nag on 2008-02-28 20:13:10
(I just read that earlier article)
That was hilarious! A psychologist as a future career? Maybe a spiritual guru!
"Information gathered in hindsight" - I hope all the widespread criticism has helped him get the good information he needed..
"Tweak my thinking a bit" - Yup, maybe next time keep your mouth in check during an interview!
But to be fair to Haydos, the interviewers were dangling the carrot with their questions, and Haydos who even eats the spectators' chips at times, just couldn't resist!
Posted by Ajesh Nag on 2008-02-28 20:13:10
KB,
You seem to get the best quality weed, for you seem to be even more creative than Hayden with your comments. Or this is a pathetic attempt to drive traffic to this blog.
So far the whingers on this tour has been Ponting, Symonds, Hayden, Clarke. Every time there is excitement on the pitch, Ponting runs to the umpires - "tell them to stop doing that". They run to match referree. India dropped charges against Brad Hogg, and they are more sportive & less childish than Ponting's gang.
Indians second rate cricketers? Maybe not as great as Australia, but I dunno, why Ponting & Haydos are so afraid of India that they over bully whenever they are afraid of losing.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-28 21:11:36
You seem to get the best quality weed, for you seem to be even more creative than Hayden with your comments. Or this is a pathetic attempt to drive traffic to this blog.
So far the whingers on this tour has been Ponting, Symonds, Hayden, Clarke. Every time there is excitement on the pitch, Ponting runs to the umpires - "tell them to stop doing that". They run to match referree. India dropped charges against Brad Hogg, and they are more sportive & less childish than Ponting's gang.
Indians second rate cricketers? Maybe not as great as Australia, but I dunno, why Ponting & Haydos are so afraid of India that they over bully whenever they are afraid of losing.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-28 21:11:36
Ravi, No one is afraid of India except Pakistan and that's at the root of both problems, really isn't it? R-E-S-P-E-C-T, where we come from respect is earned, Many members of the Indian cricket team both past and present have earnt respect (on an individual level) within the Intel' cricket community for their cricketing prowess BUT the Indian cricket team as a whole has ALWAYS been regard as pussy cats, sooks and precious little things. This current crop are trying to change that and therein lies another flash point. What were witnessing now and about to see a whole-lot-more in the future is the 1st ugly prepubescent rant of a fat, spoilt, little boy trying to sit at the men's table. Most probably to the detriment of world cricket (@ least as we know it), this fatkid has the richest dad in town. What will happen to cricket as this kid, fuelled on his own testosterone, begins flex his new found cricketing mussel?? MY prediction, in the short-term plenty, in the medium-term not much. Fat kids turn into fat men and fat men to fat old men. Money buys you into the game and it allows you to call but so far in cricket it doesn't allow you buy the win.
PS. "So far the (supreme)whingers" on this tour have been the Indian fans, BCCI and the majority of the Indian cricket team. Winning and Whinging?? they're both W words, 1 team wins the other whinges, why?
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-28 22:37:57
PS. "So far the (supreme)whingers" on this tour have been the Indian fans, BCCI and the majority of the Indian cricket team. Winning and Whinging?? they're both W words, 1 team wins the other whinges, why?
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-28 22:37:57
Sorry JC, but to whinge about that, is pretty soft, when compared to Kumble accusing the Australian teams of cheating and bad sportsmanship. Since when does a team captain to get to come out and accuse a team of cheating? Thats an umpires decision. Imagine if Australia had done the same thing?
How is that comment not offensive? As far as I am concerned the Indian lowered the standards.
Plus the fake charge against Hogg, to lay false charges and then withdraw them without giving Hogg a chance to defend himself is a cowardly attack.
The latest complaint about the Australian just happen to occur just after one of their players got fined and one of the players was caught using illegally modified gloves.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-28 23:16:04
How is that comment not offensive? As far as I am concerned the Indian lowered the standards.
Plus the fake charge against Hogg, to lay false charges and then withdraw them without giving Hogg a chance to defend himself is a cowardly attack.
The latest complaint about the Australian just happen to occur just after one of their players got fined and one of the players was caught using illegally modified gloves.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-28 23:16:04
I don't subscribe to the view that the Indians faked the charge against Hogg. I thought a lot of the criticism leveled against Australia after the Sydney Test was unfair and hypocritical. The way India threatened to boycott the tour was petulant and disgraceful.
But that's beside the point. I don't agree with a lot of the Indian's behaviour but I tend to reserve my harshest criticisms for Australian players because as an Australian, I feel they represent me and my country.
I don't think the Indians have behaved particularly well either - in fact, both teams are carrying on like spoiled brats. But I blog about what I feel strongly about - Matt Hayden in particular tends to rub me up the wrong way. :-)
Posted by JC on 2008-02-28 23:45:20
But that's beside the point. I don't agree with a lot of the Indian's behaviour but I tend to reserve my harshest criticisms for Australian players because as an Australian, I feel they represent me and my country.
I don't think the Indians have behaved particularly well either - in fact, both teams are carrying on like spoiled brats. But I blog about what I feel strongly about - Matt Hayden in particular tends to rub me up the wrong way. :-)
Posted by JC on 2008-02-28 23:45:20
I maintain my innocence?
Huh, i never meant to denigrate anyone by calling them a weed.
So he meant weed in a positive way.
Now i get it.
Posted by cricketwithballs.com on 2008-02-29 01:07:35
Huh, i never meant to denigrate anyone by calling them a weed.
So he meant weed in a positive way.
Now i get it.
Posted by cricketwithballs.com on 2008-02-29 01:07:35
I think Hayden is rite 2 hav a go. Harb is not v good and hayden is. end of.
Posted by Yormum on 2008-02-29 01:29:28
Posted by Yormum on 2008-02-29 01:29:28
PhotoHog, you are an obnoxious weed.
JC, I maintain my innocence, my intentions are not to denigrate cricket or anyone.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-29 01:49:48
JC, I maintain my innocence, my intentions are not to denigrate cricket or anyone.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-29 01:49:48
So basically the Australian mindset seems to be devoid of verbiage like humilty, grace, hospitality, dignity, subtlety, respect.
If an opposing team maintains a dignified demeanor (Indian test team that played in Sydney has atleast 2 engineers, one wannabe doctor ala Lakshman, & majority of them with pre-University or bachelor degrees) act in good manners on field just like they would in a social gathering, they are pussy cats.
If after being treated disgracefully in a host country and subjected to intense bullying & unfairness on field, they atlast finally have had enough and do not accept all the crap lying down, they are whinging.
Through strange quirk of fate, an unanticipated bonanza from overpopulation, a developing country like India happens to host richest cricket franchies, the BCCI is suddenly taking over the game from the Anglo-Saxons who controlled & dominated the game governance so far.
When Aussie players complain, it is righteous indignation from the strong & fine Aussie bloke. When it is from Indian, they are bad boys.
When the Indian board, for the first & maybe only time in its history, backed the players it threw to the dogs so far, the BCCI is blackmailing world cricket, aned acting petulant & disgraceful. And lets not forget that Austrlia almost returned home for Pakistan once before.
When Indian players reach out & give a friendly pat to an Aussie bowler, it cannot be tolerated. But when an Aussie player calls a visitor names, not only the visitor deserves it, but the offending Aussie player is within his constitutional rights.
When Aussie fans throw tomatoes, & boo a player cleared by an independent neutral judge of fabricated charges, they are being patriotic. But when Indian supporters, (some of them are not as educated or well off as their Aussie counterparts) support their national team, they are whinging.
When Indian team acts graceful (as testified by Brad Hoggg himself who actually committed the crime & never denied it) & withdraws the charge they are cowards.
When the "Austrlian" Malcom Conn & co. write pure national jingoistic trash without even being half objective it is cricket journalism at its best.
When Indian players retaliate on field, they are crossing the line in the sand & acting like 19 year olds. When Aussies do it, it is their way of playing "hard & fair" and "part & parcel of the game".
When in the heat of the moment of unbelievable stress levels, inexperienced Indian players indlge stupidly in some sledging, they are bad sports. When an Aussie player does something bad, both the Indian & Aussie players have to be condemned for ruining the game.
Ricky Ponting & Matt Hayden should know now why they got such low bids in IPL compared to even someone like David Hussey. If people have to pay, they do not want spiteful & bad rolemodels in their midst.
I am really amazed: is this stunning lack of objectivity & common sense a result of geographic isolation & lack of exposure to the world & resultant xenophobia, or unbelievable levels of nationalism that overrides common sense.
Matt prior who specializes in behind the wickets sledging, was pained when he got a letter from a Mother who said she won't allow her son to watch cricket anymore bcoz of the way he plays his cricket. It would be great to see such transformation in all cricket fans.
With the IPL, when Symonds does a lunch at Laxmans place or admires Hyderabadi Biryani, & the Aussie players do some mix'n'match with Indian players coming from the heartlands, maybe there will be good understanding on both sides, and helpfully reduce this crap.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-29 06:04:23
If an opposing team maintains a dignified demeanor (Indian test team that played in Sydney has atleast 2 engineers, one wannabe doctor ala Lakshman, & majority of them with pre-University or bachelor degrees) act in good manners on field just like they would in a social gathering, they are pussy cats.
If after being treated disgracefully in a host country and subjected to intense bullying & unfairness on field, they atlast finally have had enough and do not accept all the crap lying down, they are whinging.
Through strange quirk of fate, an unanticipated bonanza from overpopulation, a developing country like India happens to host richest cricket franchies, the BCCI is suddenly taking over the game from the Anglo-Saxons who controlled & dominated the game governance so far.
When Aussie players complain, it is righteous indignation from the strong & fine Aussie bloke. When it is from Indian, they are bad boys.
When the Indian board, for the first & maybe only time in its history, backed the players it threw to the dogs so far, the BCCI is blackmailing world cricket, aned acting petulant & disgraceful. And lets not forget that Austrlia almost returned home for Pakistan once before.
When Indian players reach out & give a friendly pat to an Aussie bowler, it cannot be tolerated. But when an Aussie player calls a visitor names, not only the visitor deserves it, but the offending Aussie player is within his constitutional rights.
When Aussie fans throw tomatoes, & boo a player cleared by an independent neutral judge of fabricated charges, they are being patriotic. But when Indian supporters, (some of them are not as educated or well off as their Aussie counterparts) support their national team, they are whinging.
When Indian team acts graceful (as testified by Brad Hoggg himself who actually committed the crime & never denied it) & withdraws the charge they are cowards.
When the "Austrlian" Malcom Conn & co. write pure national jingoistic trash without even being half objective it is cricket journalism at its best.
When Indian players retaliate on field, they are crossing the line in the sand & acting like 19 year olds. When Aussies do it, it is their way of playing "hard & fair" and "part & parcel of the game".
When in the heat of the moment of unbelievable stress levels, inexperienced Indian players indlge stupidly in some sledging, they are bad sports. When an Aussie player does something bad, both the Indian & Aussie players have to be condemned for ruining the game.
Ricky Ponting & Matt Hayden should know now why they got such low bids in IPL compared to even someone like David Hussey. If people have to pay, they do not want spiteful & bad rolemodels in their midst.
I am really amazed: is this stunning lack of objectivity & common sense a result of geographic isolation & lack of exposure to the world & resultant xenophobia, or unbelievable levels of nationalism that overrides common sense.
Matt prior who specializes in behind the wickets sledging, was pained when he got a letter from a Mother who said she won't allow her son to watch cricket anymore bcoz of the way he plays his cricket. It would be great to see such transformation in all cricket fans.
With the IPL, when Symonds does a lunch at Laxmans place or admires Hyderabadi Biryani, & the Aussie players do some mix'n'match with Indian players coming from the heartlands, maybe there will be good understanding on both sides, and helpfully reduce this crap.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-29 06:04:23
"Players' anger as Hayden charged" - headline in "the Australian".
Do Aussie players expect their board support even when they commit stupid mistakes?
Looks like whinging to me. And they are complaining when Hayden is let off with a reprimand, when he could have been fined or suspended. Easy choice if it were an Indian player.
You can't win with these guys; maybe or not on cricket field, but never outside the field.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-29 06:51:58
Do Aussie players expect their board support even when they commit stupid mistakes?
Looks like whinging to me. And they are complaining when Hayden is let off with a reprimand, when he could have been fined or suspended. Easy choice if it were an Indian player.
You can't win with these guys; maybe or not on cricket field, but never outside the field.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-29 06:51:58
Ravi,
You do make some assumptions. I am not bothered by what Aussie fans write here. They are entitled to support their home team and run down Indians. Even I'd do that. Its funny to read what they think of Indian cricket team.
I'm worried about the way Indians are not given a fair treatment in the mainstream media. They are simply adding fuel to the fire.
To me, Indians are not the only whiners, nor Australians the only sledgers. Australians have whined when things went against them. Indians have sledged too. But did we really have to know about what happened on the cricket field and inside closed doors of match refree room?
And for people who were wondering why Ponting, Hayden and McGrath got low bids, it's partly due to popular sentiment in India against them because of their perceived arrogance against Indian players on the field. I am surprised only by Warne's price. Symonds, people in India like him. If only he shut up about T20 celebrations in India, he would most likely not have been target of the Indian crowd.
Plenty of Aussies getting on the high horse to judge Indians after almost 2 month of Kumble saying something stupid after the end of SCG test is what collective bullying is about. He didn't even clarify what exactly he was talking about. Everybody conveniently assumed that it was about the Aussie behaviour on the field.
I am also disappointed with a couple of my Indian friends who support Aussies. I mean I just can't understand the logic that winners deserve the right to do anything in a sport.
The only thing I can say is Aussies have dug their own grave, because when they come to India the grounds will be packed and they will be subject to humiliation too. Now, we can all sit here and claim that Indians are barbaric and some such crap, but remember Aussie cricket team must accept the responsibility for their behaviour. Not expect BCCI to look out for them against 1 billion people who don't like them at the moment. Not whinge about it. But whinge, they will.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 09:07:51
You do make some assumptions. I am not bothered by what Aussie fans write here. They are entitled to support their home team and run down Indians. Even I'd do that. Its funny to read what they think of Indian cricket team.
I'm worried about the way Indians are not given a fair treatment in the mainstream media. They are simply adding fuel to the fire.
To me, Indians are not the only whiners, nor Australians the only sledgers. Australians have whined when things went against them. Indians have sledged too. But did we really have to know about what happened on the cricket field and inside closed doors of match refree room?
And for people who were wondering why Ponting, Hayden and McGrath got low bids, it's partly due to popular sentiment in India against them because of their perceived arrogance against Indian players on the field. I am surprised only by Warne's price. Symonds, people in India like him. If only he shut up about T20 celebrations in India, he would most likely not have been target of the Indian crowd.
Plenty of Aussies getting on the high horse to judge Indians after almost 2 month of Kumble saying something stupid after the end of SCG test is what collective bullying is about. He didn't even clarify what exactly he was talking about. Everybody conveniently assumed that it was about the Aussie behaviour on the field.
I am also disappointed with a couple of my Indian friends who support Aussies. I mean I just can't understand the logic that winners deserve the right to do anything in a sport.
The only thing I can say is Aussies have dug their own grave, because when they come to India the grounds will be packed and they will be subject to humiliation too. Now, we can all sit here and claim that Indians are barbaric and some such crap, but remember Aussie cricket team must accept the responsibility for their behaviour. Not expect BCCI to look out for them against 1 billion people who don't like them at the moment. Not whinge about it. But whinge, they will.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 09:07:51
It's all about intent JC. Like the difference between murder and manslaughter.
I heard him say it on the radio and as much as I laughed, thought it a tad inappropriate.
Posted by Hanuman on 2008-02-29 11:02:17
I heard him say it on the radio and as much as I laughed, thought it a tad inappropriate.
Posted by Hanuman on 2008-02-29 11:02:17
Yea Ravi, you are so one eyed.
Kumble insulted the whole Australian cricket team by calling them cheats? Where is the apology for that? Where is the graceful sportsman? What a pathetic loser. Is that a "dignified demeanor"? Where is the BCCI telling Kumble to pull his head in? That is a HUGE insult to a sportsman, yet India walk away from that, how is that fair?
To me the above insult is far worse than calling a annoying prat who has had problems his whole cricketing career an obnoxious weed.
Also the Indians have far from been good "hosts" when Australia visited last. Lets see your idiotic Sreesanth, your racist crowds, your boards telling one of his players he wasn't being insulted with monkey chants, (at least until we had the photos to prove it). Oh and Ravi unlike maybe in India were you can justify racism. In Australia there is no justification. But hey in India racism is apparently impossible. So we must have dreamed all that.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-29 13:39:52
Kumble insulted the whole Australian cricket team by calling them cheats? Where is the apology for that? Where is the graceful sportsman? What a pathetic loser. Is that a "dignified demeanor"? Where is the BCCI telling Kumble to pull his head in? That is a HUGE insult to a sportsman, yet India walk away from that, how is that fair?
To me the above insult is far worse than calling a annoying prat who has had problems his whole cricketing career an obnoxious weed.
Also the Indians have far from been good "hosts" when Australia visited last. Lets see your idiotic Sreesanth, your racist crowds, your boards telling one of his players he wasn't being insulted with monkey chants, (at least until we had the photos to prove it). Oh and Ravi unlike maybe in India were you can justify racism. In Australia there is no justification. But hey in India racism is apparently impossible. So we must have dreamed all that.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-29 13:39:52
Hayden barkes like a DOG. Have anybody seen his FORD cracking catch advt?
Posted by James on 2008-02-29 14:08:47
Posted by James on 2008-02-29 14:08:47
Andrew,
You are right. Kumble wasn't right about his comment. But it was on the spur of the moment, about the game. Hayden's was not on the spur of the moment.
I also agree that Indians were poor hosts. But did the Australians endear themselves to the hosts by calling their celebrations 'over the top'? Symonds did a mistake rubbing the people the wrong way.
And don't get me started on racism. Whatever exists in India, we don't have immigrants who have to suffer racism/casteism and it has never before affected another visiting country playing cricket in India. Only Australia and that too only the last time. And if you don't know, BCCI had no constitutional right arresting people who made the monkey chants. They can just eject them out of the stadium. But they still did it to make CA happy or ICC happy.
So when did Australia have this anti-racism policy? Only after an influx of immigrants who need protection from local abuse. India still hasn't reached that position. It won't ever reach that position, because there's not much space to accommodate outsiders. So please don't keep getting on that high horse about racism all the time. So India and even I don't understand what racism is, even though I am given the cold shoulder in many instances especially in government offices in Australia.
Forget Sreesanth, Harbhajan, they were just giving it back to Australians their own way. Seems their way is out of the line because its the Aussies/English that made the rules. I can understand you being angry on Indian cricket team. I'd be the same if I was Australian. What about the Aussie media? for all the things you spoke against India, Aussie media is also very aggressive against India. Why? - Because India is challenging Australia with their antics? Why are they so attached to the Aussie cricket team. You fans are not half as crazy as Indian fans and they have no reasons not to give an objective report to sell copies. Or did I get it wrong?
Don't call India racist. Have you lived in India or atleast been to India? There is no reason to have the policies against racism like you have because all the people in India are of one race.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 14:59:15
You are right. Kumble wasn't right about his comment. But it was on the spur of the moment, about the game. Hayden's was not on the spur of the moment.
I also agree that Indians were poor hosts. But did the Australians endear themselves to the hosts by calling their celebrations 'over the top'? Symonds did a mistake rubbing the people the wrong way.
And don't get me started on racism. Whatever exists in India, we don't have immigrants who have to suffer racism/casteism and it has never before affected another visiting country playing cricket in India. Only Australia and that too only the last time. And if you don't know, BCCI had no constitutional right arresting people who made the monkey chants. They can just eject them out of the stadium. But they still did it to make CA happy or ICC happy.
So when did Australia have this anti-racism policy? Only after an influx of immigrants who need protection from local abuse. India still hasn't reached that position. It won't ever reach that position, because there's not much space to accommodate outsiders. So please don't keep getting on that high horse about racism all the time. So India and even I don't understand what racism is, even though I am given the cold shoulder in many instances especially in government offices in Australia.
Forget Sreesanth, Harbhajan, they were just giving it back to Australians their own way. Seems their way is out of the line because its the Aussies/English that made the rules. I can understand you being angry on Indian cricket team. I'd be the same if I was Australian. What about the Aussie media? for all the things you spoke against India, Aussie media is also very aggressive against India. Why? - Because India is challenging Australia with their antics? Why are they so attached to the Aussie cricket team. You fans are not half as crazy as Indian fans and they have no reasons not to give an objective report to sell copies. Or did I get it wrong?
Don't call India racist. Have you lived in India or atleast been to India? There is no reason to have the policies against racism like you have because all the people in India are of one race.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 14:59:15
So when did Australia have this anti-racism policy? Only after an influx of immigrants who need protection from local abuse.
Subhash, I agree lets not get on this topic. Australia has been for its entire history a country of immigrants. That certainly doesn't translate into tolerance. And don't get me started with governments and councils in this country - after that Cronulla debacle the rest of the world has been viewing australia's "multi-culturalism" with a sceptical eye.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-29 15:55:31
Subhash, I agree lets not get on this topic. Australia has been for its entire history a country of immigrants. That certainly doesn't translate into tolerance. And don't get me started with governments and councils in this country - after that Cronulla debacle the rest of the world has been viewing australia's "multi-culturalism" with a sceptical eye.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-02-29 15:55:31
Andrew,
It was not just Kumble; a host of commentators & eminent personalities both Australian & overseas condemned the Austrlian players boorish & unethical play. In fact, Steve Waugh was once so surprised he came up with the Spriti of Cricket document or whatever for his players. Which of course is strange coming from the author of mental disintegration.
What can you say when players claim bump catches, unfairly appeal to pressure the umpire, sledge like there is no tomorrow, and focus only on winning instead of anything else, they get that tag. Even in the Sri Lanka match, Symonds got away with a bumped catch.
Try any of their tactics in your real life scenario at work or school, and you will soon find yourself in a very nasty situation so fast before you can say "obnoxious little weed". & folks won't entertain boxing ring invitations either.
Aussie players seem to have lost their perspective of what is right & wrong. Even when they should be reconsidering their actions, they complain about unfairness & run to mummy - like they go now to CA demanding a meeting between players & officials.
How else do you explain Mathew Hayden & others so indignant that CA succumbed to BCCI arm twisting? And that he has done nothing wrong except be insenstivie a little bit.
Many teams so far have suffered Aussie petulance silently - mostly as not create a scene. Unfortunately, they made many stupid mistakes, and now bad karma is catching up.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-29 16:19:40
It was not just Kumble; a host of commentators & eminent personalities both Australian & overseas condemned the Austrlian players boorish & unethical play. In fact, Steve Waugh was once so surprised he came up with the Spriti of Cricket document or whatever for his players. Which of course is strange coming from the author of mental disintegration.
What can you say when players claim bump catches, unfairly appeal to pressure the umpire, sledge like there is no tomorrow, and focus only on winning instead of anything else, they get that tag. Even in the Sri Lanka match, Symonds got away with a bumped catch.
Try any of their tactics in your real life scenario at work or school, and you will soon find yourself in a very nasty situation so fast before you can say "obnoxious little weed". & folks won't entertain boxing ring invitations either.
Aussie players seem to have lost their perspective of what is right & wrong. Even when they should be reconsidering their actions, they complain about unfairness & run to mummy - like they go now to CA demanding a meeting between players & officials.
How else do you explain Mathew Hayden & others so indignant that CA succumbed to BCCI arm twisting? And that he has done nothing wrong except be insenstivie a little bit.
Many teams so far have suffered Aussie petulance silently - mostly as not create a scene. Unfortunately, they made many stupid mistakes, and now bad karma is catching up.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-29 16:19:40
Subhash
Agree that Aussie media has very few Indian view points as Peter Roebuck revelaed after his sensational article that Ponting should be sacked. And there is even less objective opinion, just read "the Australian". It is so funny - its like reading a state run nerwspaper in a communist country like China. So fullsome of praise & support for all things Aussie, & lack of a neutral opinion.
As to the likealbility of the Aussie team, they should as a team wonder why the past WI greats team, Roger Federer, Tiger Woods are loved as true champions.
At one time the Aussie cricket members were my role models. I wish they play with their abundant talent rather than all this side baggage which robs them of well deserved praise & admiration for their cricketing performance.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-29 16:32:28
Agree that Aussie media has very few Indian view points as Peter Roebuck revelaed after his sensational article that Ponting should be sacked. And there is even less objective opinion, just read "the Australian". It is so funny - its like reading a state run nerwspaper in a communist country like China. So fullsome of praise & support for all things Aussie, & lack of a neutral opinion.
As to the likealbility of the Aussie team, they should as a team wonder why the past WI greats team, Roger Federer, Tiger Woods are loved as true champions.
At one time the Aussie cricket members were my role models. I wish they play with their abundant talent rather than all this side baggage which robs them of well deserved praise & admiration for their cricketing performance.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-29 16:32:28
Jaradevans,
I live in Australia and I am just saying that Australia has a reason to have its racism policies, because it's critical for its survival as a nation.
The word 'local abuse' was used not to refer to any incidents, but as a inevitability in a society that has an influx of immigrants.
India hasn't reached the flash point yet. I was merely responding to a previous comment on how racism is acceptable in India.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 17:42:12
I live in Australia and I am just saying that Australia has a reason to have its racism policies, because it's critical for its survival as a nation.
The word 'local abuse' was used not to refer to any incidents, but as a inevitability in a society that has an influx of immigrants.
India hasn't reached the flash point yet. I was merely responding to a previous comment on how racism is acceptable in India.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 17:42:12
The point I made on racism, when I read it again meant something totally different.
I was saying, India doesn't have anti-racism policies and people are not aware of racism because india doesn't have foreign people living there in huge numbers.
Australia has foreign people in huge numbers and its anti racism policy is one of the reasons why there is tremendous amount of students willing to migrate to Australia to study and work there. So lets not get carried away by saying Australians are good and Indians are bad w.r.t racism.
we are talking of cricket and someone comes in tells us that in India racism is acceptable (which is an absurd statement in itself). I can't help myself but defend India.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 17:51:54
I was saying, India doesn't have anti-racism policies and people are not aware of racism because india doesn't have foreign people living there in huge numbers.
Australia has foreign people in huge numbers and its anti racism policy is one of the reasons why there is tremendous amount of students willing to migrate to Australia to study and work there. So lets not get carried away by saying Australians are good and Indians are bad w.r.t racism.
we are talking of cricket and someone comes in tells us that in India racism is acceptable (which is an absurd statement in itself). I can't help myself but defend India.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 17:51:54
One particular article in the newspaper that I remember attacked India of casteism (as if they understood entirely what it is) and listed each member of the cricket team and their respective caste to draw a conclusion how the caste ratio in the Indian team doesn't represent the ratio of the real India.
Now tell me, what kind of sick journalist would do that? If I have to draw a parallel, there are no indians/srilankans or pakistanis in Australian team unlike England. Can I accuse Aussie team too of racism?
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 18:08:15
Now tell me, what kind of sick journalist would do that? If I have to draw a parallel, there are no indians/srilankans or pakistanis in Australian team unlike England. Can I accuse Aussie team too of racism?
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 18:08:15
PhotoHog, you are an obnoxious weed.
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Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-29 01:49:48
@ Zap', Monkey
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Posted by Zapper on 2008-02-29 01:49:48
@ Zap', Monkey
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-29 18:17:20
Subhash
Maybe you should do some objective reading in the Dalit abuses that are occured daily. If you like there is a UN report below and a few paragraphs from the article.
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India: ‘Hidden Apartheid’ of Discrimination Against Dalits
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Dalits endure segregation in housing, schools, and access to public services. They are denied access to land, forced to work in degrading conditions, and routinely abused at the hands of the police and upper-caste community members who enjoy the state’s protection. Entrenched discrimination violates Dalits’ rights to education, health, housing, property, freedom of religion, free choice of employment, and equal treatment before the law. Dalits also suffer routine violations of their right to life and security of person through state-sponsored or -sanctioned acts of violence, including torture.
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Attempts by Dalits to defy the caste order, to demand their rights, or to lay claim to land that is legally theirs are consistently met with economic boycotts or retaliatory violence. For example, in Punjab on January 5, 2006 Dalit laborer and activist Bant Singh, seeking the prosecution of the people who gang-raped his daughter, was beaten so severely that both arms and one leg had to be amputated. On September 26, 2006 in Kherlanji village, Maharashtra, a Dalit family was killed by an upper-caste mob, after the mother and daughter were stripped, beaten and paraded through the village and the two brothers were brutally beaten. They were attacked because they refused to let upper-caste farmers take their land. After widespread protests at the police’s failure to arrest the perpetrators, some of those accused in the killing were finally arrested and police and medical officers who had failed to do their jobs were suspended from duty.
Exploitation of labor is at the very heart of the caste system. Dalits are forced to perform tasks deemed too “polluting” or degrading for non-Dalits to carry out. According to unofficial estimates, more than 1.3 million Dalits – mostly women – are employed as manual scavengers to clear human waste from dry pit latrines. In several cities, Dalits are lowered into manholes without protection to clear sewage blockages, resulting in more than 100 deaths each year from inhalation of toxic gases or from drowning in excrement. Dalits comprise the majority of agricultural, bonded, and child laborers in the country. Many survive on less than US$1 per day
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http://hrw.org/english/docs/2007/02/13/india15303.htm
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Of course this is ignoring the religious violence in India the whole Hindu/Christian violence. India has its own form of bigotry. Indians are not immune to bigotry.
Before you get started on Australia cricket. Everyone in Australia knows that we need to get more diversity in cricket. It must have been on ABC radio, but I remember Cricket Australia talking about needing to get diversity into cricket (if nothing else to increase support/revenue for the sport). Its an acknowledged problem.
Cricket in Australia biggest problem is that unlike India, it competes for athletes with Aussies Rules football, swimming, soccer and rugby.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-29 18:30:19
Maybe you should do some objective reading in the Dalit abuses that are occured daily. If you like there is a UN report below and a few paragraphs from the article.
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India: ‘Hidden Apartheid’ of Discrimination Against Dalits
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Dalits endure segregation in housing, schools, and access to public services. They are denied access to land, forced to work in degrading conditions, and routinely abused at the hands of the police and upper-caste community members who enjoy the state’s protection. Entrenched discrimination violates Dalits’ rights to education, health, housing, property, freedom of religion, free choice of employment, and equal treatment before the law. Dalits also suffer routine violations of their right to life and security of person through state-sponsored or -sanctioned acts of violence, including torture.
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Attempts by Dalits to defy the caste order, to demand their rights, or to lay claim to land that is legally theirs are consistently met with economic boycotts or retaliatory violence. For example, in Punjab on January 5, 2006 Dalit laborer and activist Bant Singh, seeking the prosecution of the people who gang-raped his daughter, was beaten so severely that both arms and one leg had to be amputated. On September 26, 2006 in Kherlanji village, Maharashtra, a Dalit family was killed by an upper-caste mob, after the mother and daughter were stripped, beaten and paraded through the village and the two brothers were brutally beaten. They were attacked because they refused to let upper-caste farmers take their land. After widespread protests at the police’s failure to arrest the perpetrators, some of those accused in the killing were finally arrested and police and medical officers who had failed to do their jobs were suspended from duty.
Exploitation of labor is at the very heart of the caste system. Dalits are forced to perform tasks deemed too “polluting” or degrading for non-Dalits to carry out. According to unofficial estimates, more than 1.3 million Dalits – mostly women – are employed as manual scavengers to clear human waste from dry pit latrines. In several cities, Dalits are lowered into manholes without protection to clear sewage blockages, resulting in more than 100 deaths each year from inhalation of toxic gases or from drowning in excrement. Dalits comprise the majority of agricultural, bonded, and child laborers in the country. Many survive on less than US$1 per day
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http://hrw.org/english/docs/2007/02/13/india15303.htm
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Of course this is ignoring the religious violence in India the whole Hindu/Christian violence. India has its own form of bigotry. Indians are not immune to bigotry.
Before you get started on Australia cricket. Everyone in Australia knows that we need to get more diversity in cricket. It must have been on ABC radio, but I remember Cricket Australia talking about needing to get diversity into cricket (if nothing else to increase support/revenue for the sport). Its an acknowledged problem.
Cricket in Australia biggest problem is that unlike India, it competes for athletes with Aussies Rules football, swimming, soccer and rugby.
Posted by Andrew on 2008-02-29 18:30:19
andrew
some of the remarks here posted by some australian fans proves wat most of the indians feel abt australia and there cricket teams that you people might be not giving right attention to ur basic education system. yeah one can give a data and prove india as lower litracy rate then australia but u need to see the quality of education. chunk of white coller jobs like in medical and engg jobs are going to sounth asian including indian in australia so you pople need to focus on education more then sports like rugby and cricket because lack of education is showing off very promptly in the wrintings here as well as on the field when you people play game
Posted by ram on 2008-02-29 18:52:48
some of the remarks here posted by some australian fans proves wat most of the indians feel abt australia and there cricket teams that you people might be not giving right attention to ur basic education system. yeah one can give a data and prove india as lower litracy rate then australia but u need to see the quality of education. chunk of white coller jobs like in medical and engg jobs are going to sounth asian including indian in australia so you pople need to focus on education more then sports like rugby and cricket because lack of education is showing off very promptly in the wrintings here as well as on the field when you people play game
Posted by ram on 2008-02-29 18:52:48
Now you get me started again !!! I was just enjoying the blaze of Gilly and I see this loads of crap written here.
Indians and a racist community ?? Frankly speaking, I agree that people are shown the doors, oppressed by classes, but thats a caste structure which we have learnt to live with. Infact, we have reservations for the down trodden based on their classes ... but racism, please excuse me !!!
Not that our team consists of saints either. Bhajji is an offender and has an attitude problem, so does many others. But Kumble was very much right in muttering those words -- "only one team was playing in the right spirit".
Claiming bump catches, waiting for the umpires to press for even those obvious decisions -- their sick excuses (hahah Symonds claims he praised Ishant, cant get any more hypocritical), that was well deserved a comment from Kumble.
Andrew, you seem to take things way too personal. We are not subjecting the whole Australian community under a verbal barrage and calling them racists ... we never did that. Infact we cant do that as long as we get the facts ourselves.
But the Australian Cricket team certainly deserves that. And this is not a Indian viewpoint, you can just move around and ask the rest of the teams in the world.
It not because other teams are envious, infact I appreciate the fighting spirit and the constant sense of improvisation amongst the aussies, they certainly deserve to be the topmost team presently. But delve deeper and you understand the hypocrisy of it as a whole. You have the Kiwis, the Englishmen, the West Indians and now us, all of them complaining about the behaviour of the Aussies, from ages !!!
Doesnt that warrant a peek into the so called "code of conduct" which they have written down. Sounds like thats bullshit ....
Posted by ghurram on 2008-02-29 20:08:29
Indians and a racist community ?? Frankly speaking, I agree that people are shown the doors, oppressed by classes, but thats a caste structure which we have learnt to live with. Infact, we have reservations for the down trodden based on their classes ... but racism, please excuse me !!!
Not that our team consists of saints either. Bhajji is an offender and has an attitude problem, so does many others. But Kumble was very much right in muttering those words -- "only one team was playing in the right spirit".
Claiming bump catches, waiting for the umpires to press for even those obvious decisions -- their sick excuses (hahah Symonds claims he praised Ishant, cant get any more hypocritical), that was well deserved a comment from Kumble.
Andrew, you seem to take things way too personal. We are not subjecting the whole Australian community under a verbal barrage and calling them racists ... we never did that. Infact we cant do that as long as we get the facts ourselves.
But the Australian Cricket team certainly deserves that. And this is not a Indian viewpoint, you can just move around and ask the rest of the teams in the world.
It not because other teams are envious, infact I appreciate the fighting spirit and the constant sense of improvisation amongst the aussies, they certainly deserve to be the topmost team presently. But delve deeper and you understand the hypocrisy of it as a whole. You have the Kiwis, the Englishmen, the West Indians and now us, all of them complaining about the behaviour of the Aussies, from ages !!!
Doesnt that warrant a peek into the so called "code of conduct" which they have written down. Sounds like thats bullshit ....
Posted by ghurram on 2008-02-29 20:08:29
Andrew,
My point was that ethnic representation in a national cricket team doesn't have to be in tune with ethnic ratio of population. And that the journalist was wrong in trying to equate it with feudalism in India.
I am sure each of us have a lot to worry about our own countries. I did not accuse Australia of anything. You should may be refrain from accusing India too.
Hindu/Christian violence??? Do you know why it happens? Please lets not talk about that. Talk about cricketers. cricket. Say shit about Tendulkar, and Co. that is funny and we'll enjoy and say shit about Hayden. Don't bring countries into the picture.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 20:10:57
My point was that ethnic representation in a national cricket team doesn't have to be in tune with ethnic ratio of population. And that the journalist was wrong in trying to equate it with feudalism in India.
I am sure each of us have a lot to worry about our own countries. I did not accuse Australia of anything. You should may be refrain from accusing India too.
Hindu/Christian violence??? Do you know why it happens? Please lets not talk about that. Talk about cricketers. cricket. Say shit about Tendulkar, and Co. that is funny and we'll enjoy and say shit about Hayden. Don't bring countries into the picture.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 20:10:57
It would appear, to me at least, that some people have confused the actions of both the Aussies & Indian teams with sportsmanship.
Here's a tip, there is no such thing in PROFFESIONAL sport. Anybody that thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.
As soon as money comes into a sport, the participants become employees not players. You only have to look at the experiance of any other formerly amateur sport. Winning is everything, it pays better.
They only have to adhere to the written laws of the game, not the notional un-written laws that will invariably vary from country to country and era to era.
The brutal fact is, results are what count in every aspect of the game & quaint old fashioned views on sportsmanship are among the first casualties.
For better or worse, the Aussies were the first in world cricket to embrace what it meant to be a professional & they have dragged the rest of the world kicking & screaming behind them. Raw talent is just not enough in this day & age.
India's problem, in my humble opinion, is that they have chronically underperformed over many years and given the talent that they have had at their disposal, only makes it worse.
Because of this, they are seen to be continualy making excuses for their own failings & come across as a touch too precious.
Wheather they are justified or not, people stop listening after a while because they are like a broken record.
The racist arguments posted here are a load of bollocks. ALL countries are racist & the sooner people understand that, the sooner it will be worked out.
As to Hayden, he's an idiot...... and Harbijan is too.
Posted by Harry on 2008-02-29 22:34:31
Here's a tip, there is no such thing in PROFFESIONAL sport. Anybody that thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.
As soon as money comes into a sport, the participants become employees not players. You only have to look at the experiance of any other formerly amateur sport. Winning is everything, it pays better.
They only have to adhere to the written laws of the game, not the notional un-written laws that will invariably vary from country to country and era to era.
The brutal fact is, results are what count in every aspect of the game & quaint old fashioned views on sportsmanship are among the first casualties.
For better or worse, the Aussies were the first in world cricket to embrace what it meant to be a professional & they have dragged the rest of the world kicking & screaming behind them. Raw talent is just not enough in this day & age.
India's problem, in my humble opinion, is that they have chronically underperformed over many years and given the talent that they have had at their disposal, only makes it worse.
Because of this, they are seen to be continualy making excuses for their own failings & come across as a touch too precious.
Wheather they are justified or not, people stop listening after a while because they are like a broken record.
The racist arguments posted here are a load of bollocks. ALL countries are racist & the sooner people understand that, the sooner it will be worked out.
As to Hayden, he's an idiot...... and Harbijan is too.
Posted by Harry on 2008-02-29 22:34:31
Photohog
"BUT the Indian cricket team as a whole has ALWAYS been regard as pussy cats, sooks and precious little things."
Pussy Cats winning 83 world cup, beating aussies black and blue in 87 benson & hedges, runners up in 2003 world cup, pushing australia to the dingy corner in every series with their fighting display - "pussy cats attacking dinosaurs and causing severe wounds". Somehow I have a feeling, you are not aware of india's wins as by bizzare coincidence, whenever india wins, you may be busy gulping down pints slobbering in a dingy hole.
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-29 22:45:57
"BUT the Indian cricket team as a whole has ALWAYS been regard as pussy cats, sooks and precious little things."
Pussy Cats winning 83 world cup, beating aussies black and blue in 87 benson & hedges, runners up in 2003 world cup, pushing australia to the dingy corner in every series with their fighting display - "pussy cats attacking dinosaurs and causing severe wounds". Somehow I have a feeling, you are not aware of india's wins as by bizzare coincidence, whenever india wins, you may be busy gulping down pints slobbering in a dingy hole.
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-29 22:45:57
Andrew
You need to do more reading and more travelling to understand the real implication of what's being published. Western World might have observed that Indians don't apparently accept responsibility for so called casteism and seem to dodge this issue. I'LL TELL YOU THE REASON WHICH YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD EARLIER. This discrimination is not being perpetuated by people in the power or people with right background. And you would meet those people only in blogs, airports, restaurants, schools and colleges etc etc. Sadly the discrimination being perpetuated by people who are lower down the economic and social ladder themselves... they do injustice to somebody who is similar to him in every respect except caste (to differentiate them from rest of the crowd in absence of real differentiator, they do so). India unlike australia is not a society where discrimination flows top-down. In india it is at the bottom rung and both perpetrator and victim are downtrodden. That's why India is in a better position to put a stop to it, earlier than australia would do. With economy booming, it's a maater of time before this happens.
Ram, please do not only mention indians taking jobs in australia... last year we created more than 40K jobs in western world by recruiting local IT professionals in countries ranging from Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, UK, Ireland, France, Germany, Poland, Sweden, China and many more. Even Infosys in Australia is one of them. Not to talk about indian companies employing millions of europeans and americans through big ticket acquisition in steel, automobile and many other industries - USD 50 billion last year
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-29 23:04:50
You need to do more reading and more travelling to understand the real implication of what's being published. Western World might have observed that Indians don't apparently accept responsibility for so called casteism and seem to dodge this issue. I'LL TELL YOU THE REASON WHICH YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD EARLIER. This discrimination is not being perpetuated by people in the power or people with right background. And you would meet those people only in blogs, airports, restaurants, schools and colleges etc etc. Sadly the discrimination being perpetuated by people who are lower down the economic and social ladder themselves... they do injustice to somebody who is similar to him in every respect except caste (to differentiate them from rest of the crowd in absence of real differentiator, they do so). India unlike australia is not a society where discrimination flows top-down. In india it is at the bottom rung and both perpetrator and victim are downtrodden. That's why India is in a better position to put a stop to it, earlier than australia would do. With economy booming, it's a maater of time before this happens.
Ram, please do not only mention indians taking jobs in australia... last year we created more than 40K jobs in western world by recruiting local IT professionals in countries ranging from Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, UK, Ireland, France, Germany, Poland, Sweden, China and many more. Even Infosys in Australia is one of them. Not to talk about indian companies employing millions of europeans and americans through big ticket acquisition in steel, automobile and many other industries - USD 50 billion last year
Posted by No Argument on 2008-02-29 23:04:50
No Argument,
I agree with you. UN is a joke. An excuse to stamp US's hegemony around the world. Also bringing up some random blog posts to make a point about a country without actually living in it is stupid.
have you ever thought why China is so suspectful of US? Or did you conclude that it is because they hate capitalists? Let's say Indian cricket team is in the same position as China is in the world economy and is trying to do things its way.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 23:28:05
I agree with you. UN is a joke. An excuse to stamp US's hegemony around the world. Also bringing up some random blog posts to make a point about a country without actually living in it is stupid.
have you ever thought why China is so suspectful of US? Or did you conclude that it is because they hate capitalists? Let's say Indian cricket team is in the same position as China is in the world economy and is trying to do things its way.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 23:28:05
The last question was addressed to Andrew and not No Argument.
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 23:28:45
Posted by subhash on 2008-02-29 23:28:45
So, what have we got here so far today;-
Australia's are xenophobic because we are a nation of immigrants ??
Indian's can't be racist because they live in a monoethnic society??
Australia is falling behind because we are poorly educated, Indian fans do monkey chants and burn effigies because they do not have the same education opportunities as Australians??
The Australian cricket team must be poor sports because their opponents which they've flog the piss out of for the past 15 years, say so??
The Indian cricket team are better sports because they have 2 engineers, one wannabe doctor & majority of them with pre-University or bachelor degrees?? What the?
STILL, none of this talk rivals my all time favourite, "India beat Australia in the last teat series because Australia, the on field umpires, 3rd umpire match referee and icc cheated."
I hope you guys have tears in your eyes when u are posting 'cause I release a little bit of urine every time I read them.
India is still on plant earth right? 'cause I have to fly out there again late next week and I need to know whether it's suit or spacesuit, "space cadets"!
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-29 23:49:58
Australia's are xenophobic because we are a nation of immigrants ??
Indian's can't be racist because they live in a monoethnic society??
Australia is falling behind because we are poorly educated, Indian fans do monkey chants and burn effigies because they do not have the same education opportunities as Australians??
The Australian cricket team must be poor sports because their opponents which they've flog the piss out of for the past 15 years, say so??
The Indian cricket team are better sports because they have 2 engineers, one wannabe doctor & majority of them with pre-University or bachelor degrees?? What the?
STILL, none of this talk rivals my all time favourite, "India beat Australia in the last teat series because Australia, the on field umpires, 3rd umpire match referee and icc cheated."
I hope you guys have tears in your eyes when u are posting 'cause I release a little bit of urine every time I read them.
India is still on plant earth right? 'cause I have to fly out there again late next week and I need to know whether it's suit or spacesuit, "space cadets"!
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-29 23:49:58
"I am really amazed: is this stunning lack of objectivity & common sense a result of geographic isolation & lack of exposure to the world & resultant xenophobia, or unbelievable levels of nationalism that overrides common sense"
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Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-29 06:04:23
I guess a statement like this must be like calling a black man a monkey in INdia, OK? NOT RACIST??, can't be came from an Indian.
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Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-29 06:04:23
I guess a statement like this must be like calling a black man a monkey in INdia, OK? NOT RACIST??, can't be came from an Indian.
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-02-29 23:54:31
Photohog
"I hope you guys have tears in your eyes when u are posting 'cause I release a little bit of urine every time I read them."
You need to be careful and have regular medical check-up. Every time you reading something on the net, if you are urinating, these may be related to nervous disorder connected with "Inability to face truth" or "allergy towards facts". If not then please read below
Diabetes mellitus type 2 or Type 2 Diabetes is a metabolic disorder that is primarily characterized by insulin resistance, relative insulin deficiency and hyperglycemia. It is often managed by engaging in exercise and modifying one's diet. It is rapidly increasing in the developed world, and there is some evidence that this pattern will be followed in much of the rest of the world in coming years. The CDC has characterized the increase as an epidemic.In addition, whereas this disease used to be seen primarily in adults over age 40, in contrast to Diabetes mellitus type 1, IT IS NOW INCREASINGLY SEEN IN CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENT WHICH IS WORRYING FOR PEOPLE LIKE PHOTOHOG anD increase thought to be linked to rising rates of obesity in this age group, although it remains a minority of cases.
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-01 00:02:57
"I hope you guys have tears in your eyes when u are posting 'cause I release a little bit of urine every time I read them."
You need to be careful and have regular medical check-up. Every time you reading something on the net, if you are urinating, these may be related to nervous disorder connected with "Inability to face truth" or "allergy towards facts". If not then please read below
Diabetes mellitus type 2 or Type 2 Diabetes is a metabolic disorder that is primarily characterized by insulin resistance, relative insulin deficiency and hyperglycemia. It is often managed by engaging in exercise and modifying one's diet. It is rapidly increasing in the developed world, and there is some evidence that this pattern will be followed in much of the rest of the world in coming years. The CDC has characterized the increase as an epidemic.In addition, whereas this disease used to be seen primarily in adults over age 40, in contrast to Diabetes mellitus type 1, IT IS NOW INCREASINGLY SEEN IN CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENT WHICH IS WORRYING FOR PEOPLE LIKE PHOTOHOG anD increase thought to be linked to rising rates of obesity in this age group, although it remains a minority of cases.
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-01 00:02:57
Ricky Ponting & Matt Hayden should know now why they got such low bids in IPL compared to even someone like David Hussey. If people have to pay, they do not want spiteful & bad rolemodels in their midst.
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Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-29 06:04:23
Yeah they'd rather pay big bucks for "has beens" and their own "home grown fakes". Says it all really.
OR, is this another example of reverse racism towards Anglo-cricketers by the Indians??
How much do you think your average Indian player would fetch on the free market if Australia had an APL?
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-03-01 00:06:22
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Posted by Ravi on 2008-02-29 06:04:23
Yeah they'd rather pay big bucks for "has beens" and their own "home grown fakes". Says it all really.
OR, is this another example of reverse racism towards Anglo-cricketers by the Indians??
How much do you think your average Indian player would fetch on the free market if Australia had an APL?
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-03-01 00:06:22
Ravi & Photohog,
Let's not bring IPL auction to judge who is better player. Austion is a different ballgame and does not prove anything. If a bidder failed to get a decent middle order batsmen even after 3-4 rounds of bidding, he would go for anything available in next round at high price to fill the gap... I think we are doing a basic mistake i.e. in IPL, all players auctions did not happen together but in phases and rounds. So, it involves lot of external factors other than cricketing abilities..
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-01 00:10:21
Let's not bring IPL auction to judge who is better player. Austion is a different ballgame and does not prove anything. If a bidder failed to get a decent middle order batsmen even after 3-4 rounds of bidding, he would go for anything available in next round at high price to fill the gap... I think we are doing a basic mistake i.e. in IPL, all players auctions did not happen together but in phases and rounds. So, it involves lot of external factors other than cricketing abilities..
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-01 00:10:21
thanks NO Argument, but I already went and had a check up by Dr. Jayant Patel and he gave me a clean bill of health.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Queenslands-Dr-Death-linked-to-80-deaths/2005/05/24/1116700709781.html
Sorry couldn't get the link to work
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-03-01 00:18:28
http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Queenslands-Dr-Death-linked-to-80-deaths/2005/05/24/1116700709781.html
Sorry couldn't get the link to work
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-03-01 00:18:28
Andrew
"Cricket in Australia biggest problem is that unlike India, it competes for athletes with Aussies Rules football, swimming, soccer and rugby."
Did I miss any world cup football final between Brazil and Australia or Italy and Australia? Though I watched one good game played by australia in last world cup... isn't what you say pretty rich?
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-01 00:40:18
"Cricket in Australia biggest problem is that unlike India, it competes for athletes with Aussies Rules football, swimming, soccer and rugby."
Did I miss any world cup football final between Brazil and Australia or Italy and Australia? Though I watched one good game played by australia in last world cup... isn't what you say pretty rich?
Posted by No Argument on 2008-03-01 00:40:18
Andrew is a nationalist. Aussie Rules, swimming, rugby, all pale in comparison to the biggest competition for cricket in India. And that is Bollywood. Despite Bollywood clownishness, it is simply too big in India to ignore.
Aussie football is a joke. No remarkable individual talent like Brazil or astute team work like Argentina.
Andrew, the biggest problem in India is that it is full of geeks wanting to be successful entrepreneurs and making shitload of money. Cricket is an entertainment package than a sport. Its funny that Australian cricket team with all the great sporting history backing it is losing to even geeks.
Posted by subhash on 2008-03-01 00:52:20
Aussie football is a joke. No remarkable individual talent like Brazil or astute team work like Argentina.
Andrew, the biggest problem in India is that it is full of geeks wanting to be successful entrepreneurs and making shitload of money. Cricket is an entertainment package than a sport. Its funny that Australian cricket team with all the great sporting history backing it is losing to even geeks.
Posted by subhash on 2008-03-01 00:52:20
PhotoHog,
Umpire Dickie Bird said that Indian players act like gentlemen on field. There are many current & former players who will testify to the good conduct of Indian players. Many Aussie commentators said that Indian team was robbed of a draw in Sydney & were cheated with disgusting unfairness.
Indian players make helluva lot of money - Sachin Tendulkar the richest. But that does not mean he will cut corners & play unethically to win.
Can Symonds, Hayden, Ponting, get a few words of praise from any foreign player except their fans?
Some great Aussie players who are tough cricketers but having a head on their shoulders like Brett lee, Steve Waugh have become friends of India forever with their charity & cultural associations. Unlike Ricky Ponting who was once thrown out of a night club in Mumbai after misbehaving with girls there.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-01 04:25:26
Umpire Dickie Bird said that Indian players act like gentlemen on field. There are many current & former players who will testify to the good conduct of Indian players. Many Aussie commentators said that Indian team was robbed of a draw in Sydney & were cheated with disgusting unfairness.
Indian players make helluva lot of money - Sachin Tendulkar the richest. But that does not mean he will cut corners & play unethically to win.
Can Symonds, Hayden, Ponting, get a few words of praise from any foreign player except their fans?
Some great Aussie players who are tough cricketers but having a head on their shoulders like Brett lee, Steve Waugh have become friends of India forever with their charity & cultural associations. Unlike Ricky Ponting who was once thrown out of a night club in Mumbai after misbehaving with girls there.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-01 04:25:26
Ravi,
Please don't bring in all this comparison man. Especially Ponting, he is one of the greatest batsman of all time and is pretty reasonable in doing what he does. Don't hold him to our standard and judge him.
Posted by subhash on 2008-03-01 08:11:40
Please don't bring in all this comparison man. Especially Ponting, he is one of the greatest batsman of all time and is pretty reasonable in doing what he does. Don't hold him to our standard and judge him.
Posted by subhash on 2008-03-01 08:11:40
Subhash,
Once again we are confusing cricketing talent with other stuff. He is a great batsman, but that is only half the picture. I doubt Ponting is a reasonable guy when compared to his own team mates like Gilly & Brett Lee.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-01 08:55:18
Once again we are confusing cricketing talent with other stuff. He is a great batsman, but that is only half the picture. I doubt Ponting is a reasonable guy when compared to his own team mates like Gilly & Brett Lee.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-01 08:55:18
There is no other stuff on cricket field other than cricket. Ponting doesn't suggest in his demeanour that he disrespects the opposition. That is good enough for me. He doesn't suck up to the Indian cricket team by talking about them. That's his personality. I wouldn't hold it against him.
Seriously, what do you expect from a captain of a team? To back his own teammates, right? Ponting does that with grace and he is graceful in the media too. Don't worry about the one slip up after SCG in the media conference. He always doesn't talk like that.
And we are talking Ponting here. Even if he was an assol (which he is clearly not), he is a winner. comparison must be made with statistics (though they don't show the right picture) and not with their gentlemanliness. Tendulkar doesn't behave the way he behaves because he thinks he is right, but just the way he is.
Posted by subhash on 2008-03-01 09:14:41
Seriously, what do you expect from a captain of a team? To back his own teammates, right? Ponting does that with grace and he is graceful in the media too. Don't worry about the one slip up after SCG in the media conference. He always doesn't talk like that.
And we are talking Ponting here. Even if he was an assol (which he is clearly not), he is a winner. comparison must be made with statistics (though they don't show the right picture) and not with their gentlemanliness. Tendulkar doesn't behave the way he behaves because he thinks he is right, but just the way he is.
Posted by subhash on 2008-03-01 09:14:41
And we should grow over the incident that happened 10 years ago and stop searching for reasons why Ponting is not better than Tendulkar.
It's more like the careless way Murali is treated in Australia for overtaking Warne. Even after he is cleared of suspect action.
Posted by subhash on 2008-03-01 09:18:21
It's more like the careless way Murali is treated in Australia for overtaking Warne. Even after he is cleared of suspect action.
Posted by subhash on 2008-03-01 09:18:21
On a different note, at least all this controversy and perceived bad blood between the teams may help to spark rejuvenated interest in test cricket between the 2 teams. It can't hurt and anything that helps to holds that 20-20 crap at bay is a justified means to an ends. AND what if the BCCI & CA were just smart enough to engineered the whole little saga? that's my latest conspiracy theory and for me at least, it kinda sits better than the alternative reality.
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-03-01 11:27:34
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-03-01 11:27:34
I agree PhotoHog. T20 is crap. I hope India focuses more on building a test side than concentrating on T20. It's highly unlikely with the kind of technique the young guns have in India. I am only hopeful.
Posted by subhash on 2008-03-01 11:34:54
Posted by subhash on 2008-03-01 11:34:54
When I travel to India next I will do everything I can to talk-up their test side and degrade T20 (I do this in Australia every other day). I know it's only a drop in the ocean BUT if we all band together I believe we can defeat this monster. I think we all need to make a stand starting with a boycott of, attending or watching (even on tv) any of these games including the next world Cup. I know this will hurt 'cause at the end of the day it's still cricket and still better than anything else on the box but we must be strong!! Also how about forming an action group to pressure companies who support this abomination of our game? I have decided that any Newspaper or sports mag' that covers this poop will stay on the self ( an this coming from a former PhotoHog) I know many think it's inevitable that 20-20 will take over, I don't and I'm willing to take a little discomfort if it benefits international test cricket, real cricket.
I guess what I'm saying is let's stop fighting amongst ourselves and fight the true evil that upon us.
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-03-01 12:28:25
I guess what I'm saying is let's stop fighting amongst ourselves and fight the true evil that upon us.
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-03-01 12:28:25
Ponting does not suggest in his demeanor that he disrespects opposition? LMAO
Wake up Subhash. Seems like you have been missing much action this Aussie summer.
Some extra curricular activities managed by Ponting other than cricket on the field are as follows:
- Sledging
- Claiming bumped catches;
- Appealing to pressure Umpire
- Showing dissent at umpire even when he is clearly out
- Refusing to walk when he is out - now do not tell me thats cricket. Champions do not linger at crease hoping to be reprieved
- Targeted sledging & fabrication of silly charges & refusing reasonable offer from Kumble & putting the entire tour in jeopardy; This was wronged even by the great Steve Waugh
- Not mentioning or giving deserving credit to opponent teams at post match interviews; he started doing this after the public thrashing he got after Sydney gate
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-01 12:30:51
Wake up Subhash. Seems like you have been missing much action this Aussie summer.
Some extra curricular activities managed by Ponting other than cricket on the field are as follows:
- Sledging
- Claiming bumped catches;
- Appealing to pressure Umpire
- Showing dissent at umpire even when he is clearly out
- Refusing to walk when he is out - now do not tell me thats cricket. Champions do not linger at crease hoping to be reprieved
- Targeted sledging & fabrication of silly charges & refusing reasonable offer from Kumble & putting the entire tour in jeopardy; This was wronged even by the great Steve Waugh
- Not mentioning or giving deserving credit to opponent teams at post match interviews; he started doing this after the public thrashing he got after Sydney gate
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-01 12:30:51
Ravi, like I've alluded to before, I just hope your post are tongue-in-cheek 'cause if not you must live in a very insular world? A pinhole perspective and social immaturity is only amusing for so long and probably should have a limited life expectance on any thread, I'm prepared to gave up mine how about U??
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-03-01 13:03:05
Posted by PhotoHog on 2008-03-01 13:03:05
Hayden is a dill, and deliberately obtuse. He does live a little in fairyland.
However, in any other series he could say (as an example) "Andre Nel is an obnoxious weed", and there would not be such a fuss.
Or Andre Nel could say, "Matthew Hayden is an obnoxious weed" and it would be funny.
I doubt Harbajan is at all bothered at Matthew Hayden's comments (I bet he too thinks it's funny, and is itching to take Hayden's scalp with the ball on Sunday).
It's sad for cricket that everything that is said and done in this series is under such heavy scruitiny that a sense of proportion has been entirely lost.
I'm not saying Hayden shouldn't have been censured. Cricket Australia were right to act - what else can they do, with so much bad blood in this series?
I wish Australia and India could play against each other without everything becoming so *personal*.
Posted by Jonah on 2008-03-01 15:11:11
However, in any other series he could say (as an example) "Andre Nel is an obnoxious weed", and there would not be such a fuss.
Or Andre Nel could say, "Matthew Hayden is an obnoxious weed" and it would be funny.
I doubt Harbajan is at all bothered at Matthew Hayden's comments (I bet he too thinks it's funny, and is itching to take Hayden's scalp with the ball on Sunday).
It's sad for cricket that everything that is said and done in this series is under such heavy scruitiny that a sense of proportion has been entirely lost.
I'm not saying Hayden shouldn't have been censured. Cricket Australia were right to act - what else can they do, with so much bad blood in this series?
I wish Australia and India could play against each other without everything becoming so *personal*.
Posted by Jonah on 2008-03-01 15:11:11
it all started with autralians getting a RAW DEAL from the jury appinted by ICC. and all media ,CA ,Punter and many as senior guys didnt seem happy/// I dont know who was whinging then..was it the Indians or the ausies..
what goes on the field stays in the field say the ausiess and still they want to bring things out ... i have seen some ausie players give the worst sledge previously and the few of them are still in the team.
if hayden is right by saying harbajan an obnoxious weed then bajji is also right by calling him roy a monkey because he does look like one!!! now why dont u they take it sportively and leave it in a sporting comment rather than a racial comment....
thats the way the ausies have to take it becuase thats the way they have been doing all these years and when they are in the recieving end they dont like it.
if only BCCI is not rich enough i only pity the indian cricket team because CA really has a lot of influence with the ICC.
Every player has a lot of things against a lot of fellow players but they dont go to the media and talk wrath abt a person and worst of all cant imagine him calling a 19 year old to come to a ring!!! it clear;y shows that hayden was frustrated because throughout the the test and one day sharma was on top of the ausies.
Posted by purush on 2008-03-01 20:49:14
what goes on the field stays in the field say the ausiess and still they want to bring things out ... i have seen some ausie players give the worst sledge previously and the few of them are still in the team.
if hayden is right by saying harbajan an obnoxious weed then bajji is also right by calling him roy a monkey because he does look like one!!! now why dont u they take it sportively and leave it in a sporting comment rather than a racial comment....
thats the way the ausies have to take it becuase thats the way they have been doing all these years and when they are in the recieving end they dont like it.
if only BCCI is not rich enough i only pity the indian cricket team because CA really has a lot of influence with the ICC.
Every player has a lot of things against a lot of fellow players but they dont go to the media and talk wrath abt a person and worst of all cant imagine him calling a 19 year old to come to a ring!!! it clear;y shows that hayden was frustrated because throughout the the test and one day sharma was on top of the ausies.
Posted by purush on 2008-03-01 20:49:14
@ Jonah,
Jonah says "However, in any other series he could say (as an example) "Andre Nel is an obnoxious weed", and there would not be such a fuss."
Jonah Just as you think Obnoxious weed is a harmless commnent, In any match involving, India, SL, Pakistan, Bangladesh one could have called anyone monkey as many a times and no one would have cared a damn about what was said.
Posted by nike on 2008-03-01 20:51:30
Jonah says "However, in any other series he could say (as an example) "Andre Nel is an obnoxious weed", and there would not be such a fuss."
Jonah Just as you think Obnoxious weed is a harmless commnent, In any match involving, India, SL, Pakistan, Bangladesh one could have called anyone monkey as many a times and no one would have cared a damn about what was said.
Posted by nike on 2008-03-01 20:51:30
so worst is yet to come because this current indian team has a lot of brats and they are not going to keep quiet if ausies are going to sledge .... and the saga will continue henceforth in a very aggressive manner.and ausies have to put up with it or keep their mouth shut. no other go .
Posted by purush on 2008-03-01 20:52:40
Posted by purush on 2008-03-01 20:52:40
PhotoHog,
Looking at the previous posts, it is easy to see who made insular & immature posts, and received censure from other exasperated readers. No wonder you do not find it funny anymore.
As Brett Lee will not tire reminding us, we all know where the line is in the sand, and as long as we do not cross it, poking fun at any player Indian & Aussie is part & parcel of blogs. Lets not run to the blog admin everytime you do not like some post, painting it racist.
Chill out a bit; do not take everything personal. We are all interested in cricket here, and I hope the best team wins the finals. If Indian team sucks, you bet I will be sulking about Sachin & company. If Ponting or Symo do a good job, kudos to them.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-01 21:01:58
Looking at the previous posts, it is easy to see who made insular & immature posts, and received censure from other exasperated readers. No wonder you do not find it funny anymore.
As Brett Lee will not tire reminding us, we all know where the line is in the sand, and as long as we do not cross it, poking fun at any player Indian & Aussie is part & parcel of blogs. Lets not run to the blog admin everytime you do not like some post, painting it racist.
Chill out a bit; do not take everything personal. We are all interested in cricket here, and I hope the best team wins the finals. If Indian team sucks, you bet I will be sulking about Sachin & company. If Ponting or Symo do a good job, kudos to them.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-01 21:01:58
Nike says: "Jonah Just as you think Obnoxious weed is a harmless commnent, In any match involving, India, SL, Pakistan, Bangladesh one could have called anyone monkey as many a times and no one would have cared a damn about what was said."
I agree, as a matter of fact. As I said in my comment, the sense of proportion in this series has been entirely lost.
Posted by Jonah on 2008-03-02 01:36:49
I agree, as a matter of fact. As I said in my comment, the sense of proportion in this series has been entirely lost.
Posted by Jonah on 2008-03-02 01:36:49
The double standards that the Aussies employ is truly amazing. The antics of Ponting, Symonds and Hayden have shown them up for a bunch of uncouth trailer trash, with no morality whatsoever, covering up their fast waning technical skins with wingeing, cheating and moaning. Lee bowls a beamer at 140 K and a free hit isn't even called!! Imagine if an indian bowler had done that....the whingeing from the Aussie camp would have been unbelievable. And they could learn a lot from Sachin's gracious reaction. That Aussies is SPORSTMANSHIP, something you guys seem to have forgotten along with aboriginal oppression!
Posted by Steaming Aussie Manure Heap on 2008-03-03 06:16:29
Posted by Steaming Aussie Manure Heap on 2008-03-03 06:16:29
PhotoHogg is a tutu wearing knob head.
Opps, sorry, I did not mean to denigrate him.
Posted by PhotoHogg's Mum on 2008-03-03 06:22:07
Opps, sorry, I did not mean to denigrate him.
Posted by PhotoHogg's Mum on 2008-03-03 06:22:07
Arrogance is the only word that comes to my mind watching Aussie players, reading Aussie media and their fans. When they do something it is right and when others do it to them it is wrong. Well, frankly, it is childish and immature. Come on, grow up. Nothing lasts for ever, and their dominance of cricket certainly won't too. So admit the fact. Let it go. Understand that other countries have as much right to arrogance as they do. I mean, unless they are genetically linked to Hitler, in which case I understand they won't get it until the end that they have also eveolved from monkeys just as Srilankans and Indians and everyone else in the world has, and they are not really noble race created by god just to rule the others.
Posted by Jesus Christ on 2008-03-03 16:58:40
Posted by Jesus Christ on 2008-03-03 16:58:40
I sincerely think that Aussies mentality is like American mentality, when it comes to cricket. They basically believe whatever they do is right and whatever others do is wrong. They also believe that no one is better than them and no one will ever be better than them. I do not agree with their thinking, but I will suggest a simple solution. Since they think they are too good for others, I do not see a point in playing with any of second rate cricket teams. Why don't they just stop hosting and visiting these teams and just be happy with themselves. Maybe just win a world cup every 4 years and sit back. Let the other poor nations fight with each other.
Posted by Mike, England on 2008-03-03 17:11:10
Posted by Mike, England on 2008-03-03 17:11:10
Or maybe other nations should simply boycott Aussies and just not play with them. Afterall they are the designated champions created by the god. I think Aussies don't even have to play for world cup even. We will just give it to them and all other nations will just play for second place.
Posted by David, South Africa on 2008-03-03 17:17:59
Posted by David, South Africa on 2008-03-03 17:17:59
The Indian cricketers and their supports are sooks and should grow up.
Posted by Peter, England on 2008-03-03 18:38:50
Posted by Peter, England on 2008-03-03 18:38:50
The Indian cricketers and their supports are sooks and should grow up.
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Posted by Peter, England on 2008-03-03 18:38:50
They are not welcome back in SA. They are Racists
Posted by Ethan, South Africa on 2008-03-03 18:41:08
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Posted by Peter, England on 2008-03-03 18:38:50
They are not welcome back in SA. They are Racists
Posted by Ethan, South Africa on 2008-03-03 18:41:08
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If some one finds comment from a person of one race as an act of racism, but does not mind if it is from the person of another race, then the racism is actually in that person's mind and not in the others.
Posted by Einstien's theory of racism on 2008-03-04 13:26:36
Posted by Einstien's theory of racism on 2008-03-04 13:26:36
I agree with Einstien. To make my point, will Symonds make this fuss if Ponting called him monkey. Yeah, I know. Ofcourse then they will be laughing about their good sense of humor over a bottle of beer. And the same guys don't find anything wrong with abusing others with all kind of rubbishness. But they can't take it to them from others. Probably because they are divine. Maybe creature of god. Some noble race. In that case I agree indians are guilty of hurting their ego.
Posted by Anurag on 2008-03-04 13:32:59
Posted by Anurag on 2008-03-04 13:32:59
Yup, must be a big racial conspiracy between SA, England and Australia. Delusional, AND paranoid. Brilliant. Glad the plane leaves this week.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-04 13:54:51
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-04 13:54:51
Well, what do you know...the plane leaves this week--WITH THE TROPHY...I bet you Oz fans were ignoring the writing on the wall and now are faced with a result you can't justify...Ozs lose 2-0 to the Indians....So long then...until next time
Posted by Akash on 2008-03-05 09:39:20
Posted by Akash on 2008-03-05 09:39:20
All teams have a few jerks who are tough to control on the field, what happend in the recently concluded ODI tournament and the tests has been happening since the game began and teams started touring each other, must add here that the Brits and Aussies were the pioneers, however all teams have embraced it now and sledging exists in even domestic levels of all major cricketing counties.
The great catalyst was the print and electronic media of both countries, what should have begun and ended on the field, was being broadcast across Australia and India in true sensationalist fashion to improve sales or increase ratings.
The truth reamins that there are all kinds of characters in every team, for each Harbie there's a Symmo and for each Sachin there is ........ truly cant think of anyone there!!! Let them play, let them sledge, let the media report inflated stories. This was perhaps the most enjoyble tour of cricket I have witnessed, It's good for the game even if the saints may not agree.
PS: All teams have a few jerks who are tough to control on the field, what happend in the recently concluded ODI tournament and the tests has been happening since the game began and teams started touring each other, must add here that the Brits and Aussies were the pioneers, however all teams have embraced it now and sledging exists in even domestic levels of all major cricketing counties.
The great catalyst was the print and electronic media of both countries, what should have begun and ended on the field, was being broadcast across Australia and India in true sensationalist fashion to improve sales or increase ratings.
The truth reamins that there are all kinds of characters in every team, for each Harbie there's a Symmo and for each Sachin there is ........ truly cant think of anyone there!!! Let them play, let them sledge, let the media report inflated stories. This was perhaps the most enjoyble tour of cricket I have witnessed, It's good for the game even if the saints may not agree.
PS: here's wishing Gilly all the best after his retirement.
Posted by Aman on 2008-03-05 21:06:01
The great catalyst was the print and electronic media of both countries, what should have begun and ended on the field, was being broadcast across Australia and India in true sensationalist fashion to improve sales or increase ratings.
The truth reamins that there are all kinds of characters in every team, for each Harbie there's a Symmo and for each Sachin there is ........ truly cant think of anyone there!!! Let them play, let them sledge, let the media report inflated stories. This was perhaps the most enjoyble tour of cricket I have witnessed, It's good for the game even if the saints may not agree.
PS: All teams have a few jerks who are tough to control on the field, what happend in the recently concluded ODI tournament and the tests has been happening since the game began and teams started touring each other, must add here that the Brits and Aussies were the pioneers, however all teams have embraced it now and sledging exists in even domestic levels of all major cricketing counties.
The great catalyst was the print and electronic media of both countries, what should have begun and ended on the field, was being broadcast across Australia and India in true sensationalist fashion to improve sales or increase ratings.
The truth reamins that there are all kinds of characters in every team, for each Harbie there's a Symmo and for each Sachin there is ........ truly cant think of anyone there!!! Let them play, let them sledge, let the media report inflated stories. This was perhaps the most enjoyble tour of cricket I have witnessed, It's good for the game even if the saints may not agree.
PS: here's wishing Gilly all the best after his retirement.
Posted by Aman on 2008-03-05 21:06:01
This series has certainly highlighted the issue of sledging on more than one occasion. In my opinion I have nothing against sledging and it's part of the game. But there is also a mark that players should make sure they don't cross and its important that players where that mark is.
Posted by Isaac on 2008-03-06 07:10:45
Posted by Isaac on 2008-03-06 07:10:45
This whole sledging thing is taken too seriously by everyone- I feel better when someone tries to handle this topic with a touch of humour..
http://www.gamecricket.com/2008/02/mathew-haydenan-obnoxious-big-weed.html
Posted by Hayden an obnoxious big weed? on 2008-03-11 18:31:44
http://www.gamecricket.com/2008/02/mathew-haydenan-obnoxious-big-weed.html
Posted by Hayden an obnoxious big weed? on 2008-03-11 18:31:44
WHY ALL THIS BIG FUSS,IF HAYDEN CALLED SINGH
OBNOXIOUS BIG WEED, HE DID THE RIGHT THING,HE IS ONE. YOU JUST HAVE TO WATCH HIS FACIAL EXPRESSIONS WHEN HE PLAYS CRICKET,IT ALWAYS SEEMS, AS IF HE IS CRYING, AND THAT GOES FOR MOST OF THE TEAM. GOOD ON YOU HAYDEN. GIVE IT TO THEM ONE MORE TIME.
Posted by S S on 2008-03-18 22:58:27
OBNOXIOUS BIG WEED, HE DID THE RIGHT THING,HE IS ONE. YOU JUST HAVE TO WATCH HIS FACIAL EXPRESSIONS WHEN HE PLAYS CRICKET,IT ALWAYS SEEMS, AS IF HE IS CRYING, AND THAT GOES FOR MOST OF THE TEAM. GOOD ON YOU HAYDEN. GIVE IT TO THEM ONE MORE TIME.
Posted by S S on 2008-03-18 22:58:27
i agree SS. Good on ya haydos, they are all sooks. they can give it but when it comes to taking it they have big whinges.
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