Australia vs India, 2nd Final
Australia gives lots of reasons for losing matches. Dead rubber syndrome. End of season burn-out. Injury. Retirements. Jetlag. Umpiring decisions. Substitute fielders. God.
But Australia lost the 1st final for two simple reasons. We batted like crap, Tendulkar batted like a champion. Somehow the Australian top order need to reverse a season-long trend of poor form that has been around regardless of injuries, season burn-out or divine intervention. No excuses, boys, keep your eye on the ball and smash those Indian youngsters!
My prediction. If Australia bat second, they'll win. The reason? The JC curse. If I'm ever unable to watch Gilly bat, he does something incredible. While at a Christmas Carols event, he scored the 2nd ever fastest Test century. Last week when Channel 9 were airing news and current affairs, Gilly scored 80 off a handful of balls. Today being a local game, only the first few hours are being televised. If Australia bat first, I'll watch Gilly smash a few boundaries through the covers then sky one to mid-on. If Australia bat second, I'll listen on the radio as he scores a century off 70 balls and Australia chase India's total comfortably.
| Posted by JC on Tue 4 Mar | 169 comments |
Indian team is ramping up well, but need to see if they can maintain the momentum from their previous wins.
Ideal contest; the most hungry team will win today.
On a side note an objective article on crowd behaviour, Harbhajan Singh by Greg Baum in the Age
Should be journalism 101 for Malcolm Conn of the Australian for his one dimensional, jingoistic trash that cheats his readers of an objective opinion. Articlea title is "Yet again, Harbhajan walks free"
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 11:08:30
Anyway, cricket is all that interests me today and there are any number of Australian batsmen who are overdue. Let's hope it's a bit closer than Game 1.
Posted by TA on 2008-03-04 11:28:20
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-04 11:35:49
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 11:47:53
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Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 11:08:30
Ravi,
It is just australian media trying to get the attention of their readers/viewers, much like the Indian media does. I guess it has become common nowadays that CBN is Pure Australian support comments and Star is Pure Indian support comments. I had watched Star Cricket clippings for the "symonds trying to run out the batsman when the batsman collided with the bowler" (Aus-SL match) and the "Brett Lee Beamer" (Aus - India match) incidents. I felt they are exaggerating the issues. Anway,
as per book, Harbhajan was cleared by Independent Judge for racism complaints in Sydney test and cleared by Match Refree for crowd issues in the First Final. ( They can see/argue about these issues however they want).
Lets hope we have a good game.
Posted by mss on 2008-03-04 11:57:35
Wonder if Ishant does not take the field, we may see Sreeshanth??
Posted by LK on 2008-03-04 12:03:44
Are u located overseas??
Posted by LK on 2008-03-04 12:20:55
Posted by Andrew Mosey's Cousin on 2008-03-04 12:25:29
Its funny how fans across different teams have same experience with respect to watching their team perform. I was joking the other day with my friend India seems to do well when we are not watching the game. I followed the sentiment in first final; popped in to check the score & made a hasty exit from the browser as fast as a Brett Lee beamer. I will try to avoid the match today, but it seems too interesting not to.
Not sure about Sreesanth yet; but Munaf may get in the call if there is a chance. Not sure why Irfan Pathan bowled so pathetically in Sydney, even after considering the relative slowness of the pitch. Short & wide on any pitch will be hammered.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 12:30:27
Posted by JC on 2008-03-04 12:43:31
Posted by LK on 2008-03-04 13:09:02
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-04 13:09:22
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Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-04 13:27:53
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-04 13:57:14
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 13:59:10
India bats first. My first prediction was right. I also think that the Aussies would be thirsty as hell and being usually strong on comebacks, they will skittle India around 175. Not that I hope that happens, but that is what my gut says.
Posted by deezina on 2008-03-04 14:08:30
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 14:21:42
Posted by JC on 2008-03-04 15:01:06
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-04 15:51:45
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-04 15:52:58
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 16:16:34
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-04 16:39:47
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-04 17:24:53
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-04 17:27:32
Will be interesting to see if the match referee docks the aussies of some overs, they clearly havent had the best days with the stipulated time rules.
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-04 17:56:47
Hopefully Gilly will get his eye in over the first 30 minutes then open up at 6pm when coverage starts.
Posted by JC on 2008-03-04 18:10:13
One last effort, we all would like to see!
But then, a good 'one last effort' from Gilly might result in an aussie win and render the phrase 'one last...' meaningless as we'd have another match in hand!
Fingers crossed.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-03-04 18:13:57
As far as 258 is concerned, it might be competitive as the ball is not coming on to the bat and India have 2 spinners. Plus the ball does swing in the evenings. India will surely miss Ishant.
Average 1st innings total in 5 matches before this match here is 230. So lets see.
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Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-04 18:17:13
Talking about cricket, it was irritating to see Gambhir & Yuvi holing out when in good nick. These guys should learn from Sachin how to pace an innings. Probably they forgot the Gabba is a much bigger ground & non-trivial to clear the rope.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 18:30:10
The beamer is a non-issue. It happens, and Lee immediately apologized, so no hassle there.
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-04 18:30:11
Posted by LK on 2008-03-04 18:32:13
May be Ponting might be called up post the match. But thats repeat offence in this series, they have been docked twice of being slow in their innings.
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-04 18:33:11
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-04 18:35:04
Posted by LK on 2008-03-04 18:36:02
Posted by JC on 2008-03-04 18:36:55
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-04 18:48:32
He has bought Australian cricket too much of shame and he rightfully deserves a boot. He should have gone on a 0 though. Being as old as tendulkar he hardly shows any sign of maturity and cries like a bitch.
Posted by AustralianPork on 2008-03-04 18:53:02
Posted by PJ on 2008-03-04 18:57:17
2 Queenslanders now at the crease at their home ground. Nice story.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 19:18:49
Clark is a bunny when compared to George.
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-04 19:40:04
Posted by JC on 2008-03-04 19:46:56
Reg. Ponting's form, even the great batsmen are not immune to the form slump. Sachin was there; at his worst moment, he was booed by his home crowd in Mumbai, and ha dto field demands about his retirement.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 19:54:09
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-04 20:09:45
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-04 20:19:36
True, but it becomes very difficult to displace an out of form batsman when he is the skipper. They can balance with other skillset like smart captaincy, like Mark Taylor did for a very long time while on woeful form.Its kinda difficult choice - once a skipper makes himself unavailable to get hold of his focus & form & returns back to the team, there will be a new captain and needless power struggle. I vaguely remember there were such awkwardness between Steve Waugh & Ricky Ponting b4 Waugh retired.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 20:21:13
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 20:22:45
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-04 20:27:02
This is the unlosable game
I am sick of Channel 9s commentary team and their failure to ever criticise our players even when they play extremely ordinarily
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-04 20:29:33
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-04 20:34:43
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-04 20:34:53
True Indian fans are quite used to this pattern of India losing from unlosable situations.
Recent youngsters in the team, and before that the winning attitude under Ganguly have slowly changed this trend. But apparently it has not gone away completely from the Indian team, and is again making its ocmeback.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 20:35:00
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-04 20:36:07
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-04 20:39:05
Hopes is playing hopelessly - love Chappeli's comment - He is reading it as well as Sanskrit
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-04 20:46:40
Rohit Sharma covered his eyes ROTL
Posted by Adi on 2008-03-04 21:02:24
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-04 21:23:26
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-04 21:27:32
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-04 21:42:57
It was the same umpire who gave Symonds not out after caught a mile outside crease.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 21:42:57
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-04 21:45:45
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-04 21:52:50
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 22:02:29
Hope Dhoni doesnt go across to Yuvraj to bowl that. Chawla shud be a better option.
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-04 22:12:14
Posted by Ajesh Nag on 2008-03-04 22:15:17
A tie anyone?!
Posted by Ajesh Nag on 2008-03-04 22:16:26
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 22:27:52
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-04 22:30:03
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-04 22:31:57
Well played Aussies .... is photohog still in the stands ?
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-04 22:40:52
wonder when was the last time that this happened to them... been a a strong supporter of the aussies way of playing cricket i somehow think wat better than probably these guys win it off and give gilly a wonderful farewell gift but, this did'nt seem to go well with many ppl i feel.
the aussies are by far the most engaging teams in the world and they have this never say die attitude which is something that everyone wants to look out for... but somehow this zeal and courage and will to fight seems to ve been lost someway down the line and it has been taken up by the indians...
Posted by noelalok on 2008-03-04 22:46:08
We sucked, India played ok but should've cleaned us up even cheaper. Symo should win MoTM for his shoulder charge on that tool streaker.
All this talk of us losing our mojo and all that crap is petty. We lost the tri-series to the poms and the chappell/hadlee last time. It seemed to inspire is to win the world cup undefeated. Keep the dream alive India.
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Posted by Harbhajan on 2008-03-04 23:01:42
Also good to watch Indian fielders consoling Hopes after he was distraught. Compare that to the way Ricky Ponting & Co's wild celebrations at the end of Sydney test on Ishant's wicket. Kumble waited to do the post match courtesy of shaking hands, & ultimately had to spend sometime at the boundary for the Aussies.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-04 23:03:09
Posted by virtualgaz on 2008-03-04 23:09:54
Get a life ppl , go hide !!
Posted by Indie on 2008-03-04 23:15:45
AND THAT RIDICULOUS REFERRAL TO THE THIRD UMPIRE BY TAUFEL OF THE HUSSIE DISMISSAL. CALLED CORRECTLY BY THE SKY COMMENTATORS AS AN ATTEMPT TO GAIN HOME ADVANTAGE.
YET MORE EXAMPLE OF AUSSIE BIAS AND CHEATING. IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR THAT INDIA WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE TEST SERIES TOO.
Posted by Aussie crybaby on 2008-03-04 23:25:36
Stick to Aussie rules boys. The rest of the world doesn't play that, so at least you can win at something.
Posted by Aussie sporting loser on 2008-03-04 23:29:05
Posted by The Singh boys on 2008-03-04 23:32:50
I have said it before and will say it again - if this team plays consistently they can beat anyone, but lets see the consistency now..
Will be following the Safrica series closely and looking forward to the October Tour...
We have some real worries at the top of the order with the bat - and Ponting needs to focus on his batting, they all need a well deserved break...
If you had told me we would win the Test series and have a cracking ODI series but lose I would probably have taken it...
Well done to India for challenging us, but you will have to wait 4 years before you can claim to be the Worlds best if you manage to win the Tests down here...
Oh and in the interim lets hope you can win a World Cup, after all it is in your backyard next time...
Posted by Ace on 2008-03-04 23:52:19
Posted by sourgrapes on 2008-03-05 00:01:54
I'll give you some fodder in case the next series is close, "Steve Bucknor in Sex Scandal! Caught on tape with Third Umpire! Both Wearing Australian Jerseys made of Australian Dollars!"
Posted by ShootME on 2008-03-05 00:05:47
Posted by Reality bites on 2008-03-05 00:06:54
Posted by Aussie crybaby on 2008-03-05 00:09:04
Anyway the second ODI was a thriller and the better team has won.
Posted by Zapper on 2008-03-05 00:42:24
and i repeat this indian team is the future of cricket generation x ...egsample - a win in the u 19 world cup too..
india deserves to win the next world cup because they just dominated the ausies in their own backyard in the whole of the series.
but never have i enjoyed a series like this one in my life,full of on and off the field controversies and some fitting replies..
at the end the better team won.
Posted by purush on 2008-03-05 00:58:08
Posted by ShootME on 2008-03-05 02:42:14
Think Aussies have found someone to replace Watson,in the form of Hopes.If Watson is fit and if they find a good enough spinner,India will have tough time in the test series this year.
Posted by mahesh2 on 2008-03-05 03:13:37
His improvisation and application to the cause is exemplary and other teams should learn from it. He lets his bat do the TALK !!!
Posted by AustralianPork on 2008-03-05 03:18:12
Truth to tell, all the controversies sickened me - it'll be hard to come up with new lows. The real culprits here were the media - from both sides. Jingoistic reporting can never be objective can it - and we all just lap it up. Grow up, people. Enjoy the game - u got to agree, it was a great series.
Posted by Levelheaded on 2008-03-05 04:26:28
Now that the series has ended I would request supporters of both teams to avoid sniping (like the last few postings) and take the high ground regarding closing comments.
All the elements made for one hell of a series. Whether you love/hate either team, I guarantee we will be watching when they play again!
Posted by K.B. Bose on 2008-03-05 04:52:42
Posted by Apologist on 2008-03-05 05:13:02
Posted by Isaac on 2008-03-05 05:25:55
The next big shot for India is Aussie's tour to India. If we can beat them at home then it will remain neutral. Both tigers at home. But I certainly believe that Aussies will have a real problem in hand without a quality regular spinner.
As far as Aussies not being at their best, too bad that they weren't at their best. The fact is that the better team won. Both team were under tremendous pressure because of the off field controversy, but it brought out the best in India, while the one's who started it (Symo, Hydo, Ponting and Clark) suffered.
Yup, as far as us waiting for 4 years before we tour Aussie to win the test, lets see how Aussies do in India.
Posted by ssukhdial on 2008-03-05 06:51:11
Moral of the story:
- Mental disintegration of opponents boomerangs!
- Dirty gamesmanship brings disrepute.
- Positive cricket is good for both score card, bank statement, & the mind.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-05 08:35:25
Batting - well quite frankly the top order were culpable ! It was one of the worst displays from the Aussies in many a year. Ricky Ponting had just watched Tendulka play a great innings, so instead of attempting a measured start he attempts a cross bat slog and is caught, hardly what we would expect from the national Captain. Clarke did something similar, admittedly to a ball which stayed low - but the shot selection was a shocker. Hadyen had the Indian's measure and looked like the saviour until he stunningly ran himself out. Symonds' played straight to short mid off and stood his ground and unbelievably Hayden was already half way down the wicket. It was Symonds' call, and quite rightly he didn't as it was suicidal. The rest is history. Symonds' I'm sure with his minds still on the spray he received from Hayden when on his way back to the pavilion, was out LBW next over to a Singh delivery. He was unlucky and it was one of the few dodgey decisions from Umpire Tauffel.
The remainder of the middle order and tail were left to pick up the pieces, they did very well considering the circumstances, but despite Hopes and Hussey's efforts there was a certain predictability about the outcome. No excuses Indian played good solid cricket and deserved the win. Australia were just....disappointing, mostly from a batting perspective. What a great lineup but frankly 'what were they thinking' ??
Posted by GM on 2008-03-05 09:54:07
Posted by William on 2008-03-05 09:59:18
Loving that India tried young guys in their side - pressure situations are the best for learning your craft. I especially loved how Kumar was so cool after taking wickets (not jumping around like a lunatic). And MS Dhoni's coolness and grace in victory is something all cricketers can take on board. I don't like losing, but you have to enjoy the way in which the Indians accounted for themselves in victory.
And on the Bracken MOTS thing - was an odd choice on the surface (I was initially surprised), but he was pretty consistent throughout the tourney. Was certainly a series where, on the whole, the ball was a little more dominant over the bat.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-05 11:44:30
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Posted by Murali K on 2008-03-05 12:11:13
Now that tempers are cool, I wish we can have a healthy debate on the murky events which actually began in INDIA, and how we can make cricket more enjoyable.
Ribbing each other can actually be very interesting, but it should never be abusive or language be unparliamentary. Calling an opponent Fu***er, FO, FU, Bas***d, Monkey or names should be absolutely NO NO.
SO JC and Jaradevans et all, how about an actually OBJECTIVE Aussie reaction to what transpired at Sydney in that Test match?
Posted by LK on 2008-03-05 13:40:18
Posted by Ghurram on 2008-03-05 15:26:07
And finally the way Aussie media has conducted itself was despicable. The Aussies that I know are fantastic people but your media conveys an image of Australia that is not very palatable.
Posted by Varghese on 2008-03-05 16:40:30
LK, one thing that I've noticed over the past 10 years or so is that Australia's on-field behaviour (with the exception of the team under Mark Taylor for a period) has not improved, not got any worse. The fact that they have been winning for a majority of that time has drawn attention (in this country anyway) away from their behavioural issues.
Because of this, it has been perceived that the Australian "aggression" and "determination" has contributed to this success. When the success is looking as though it is on the wane, or at least, the rest of the cricketing community are proving to be more challenging in Australian eyes, we can see very much has been confused as aggression as arrogance, and that winning determination as winning at all costs. Neither of the latter are very respected in any sport.
Having lived overseas for a long time and only returning to Australia recently, I know that the attitude that many of the other nation's supporters view the approach of Australian cricket team can be, at times, ugly, especially when under pressure. This is what we saw in Sydney. I am not detracting from the ability of many of the players we have seen (Waugh x 2, Gilly, McGrath, Warne), but I do question their response to difficult situations. Often, under pressure, Australia resort to means that turn you off cricket (with some few exceptions - the 5 wicket win over Pakistan in Hobart springs to mind). A friend of mine used to say, if you want to beat Australia in a test match, set them about 120 in the fourth innings to win. Australia has very recently turned to unsavoury tactics when the pressure is on, rather than entrusting their abilities. And they are the poorer side to watch because of it.
Australia may have won in Sydney, but the behaviour of a few senior players needs to be examined by its hierarchy, because I don't want the younger players coming through in the next 5 years thinking that sort of approach to the game is acceptable. Messers Ponting, Hayden and Symonds have some work to do in my mind, as does one H Singh.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-05 20:22:37
When you say younger players should not follow the approach of messrs Ponting, Hayde, Symo to the game, one example that comes to my mind is Michael Clarke. Apparently, he drew his inspiration from Ponting for bumped catches, but after the Sydney furore, seemd to ahve gotten a clean head & a chastened attitude.
On other points, I applaud your "objective" or lets say fact based appraisal of current affairs.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-05 20:58:07
It must have been a sign when Ponting's behaviour as a youth was much worse than Clarke.
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-05 21:20:46
Posted by jaradevans on 2008-03-05 21:24:42
But there are still huge gaps (like that of Yuvi's bat pad gap) in the Indian system that much talent falls thru the cracks, or those who make it are not persistent.
Setting up good domestic setup, sporting pitches, formal approach to sports medicine, selection pattern free of polticial & zonal ties, professional leadership of BCCI rather than current political administrators would be on an Indian fan wish list. Obviously not going to happen or in near future.
These are some areas Australia is a world leader, and wish the IPL will help rub some of that off in India.
Ponting is too classy a batsman & like you said, and just like what Sachin is doing, should focus on achieving batting greatness.
A good thing about Ponting is his ability to learn when showed up, and as he did before many times, and as illustrated by his sportive demeanor atleast in post match interviews since the Sydney test, I am sure he will shine both as player & person in whatever role he takes up further.
Posted by Ravi on 2008-03-05 21:46:46
Posted by Rdx on 2008-03-05 22:10:59
Posted by Isaac on 2008-03-06 04:20:36
I suggest giving Hussey or Symonds more responsibility too and axing Hayden, or encouraging him to focus on Test cricket...
We need to make the tough decisions and bring in a new opener and possibly a new middle order batsmen.
Dave Hussey should be in the team if it is picked on form, and there are a number of openers that have done well in the Ford Ranger cup that should be given a decent chance...
As long as there is so much reliance on Ponting and Hayden we are not going to develop the future of the team. I have been impressed by Clarke's batting this series he seems to have reigned his head in, which is good to see...
Also applaud his decision to not participate in the dash for cash...
a young off spinning all-rounder might be the way to go - Hauritz or Beau Casson spring to mind, but I'm a New South Welshman, so hence the bias...
Im also not sure what happened to the rotation policy, use a big squad and force players to miss games - it seemed to work in the past and keep everyone fresh, plus blood younger cricketers...
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I came across some other golden moments of Indo Aussie ties which entered its 60th yr. in 2008. You guys would like to visit too
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I enjoyed reading, Hope other cricket buffs will too enjoy it.
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I think that Matty Hayden is the best cricketer.
His big powerful, strength in his hitting is becoming a rarity with the like of the smaller strokeplayers coming into the game. For Example, clarke, jacques, rogers, ponting..
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